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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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fade to black yeah man

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bespoke radio for

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the masses

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yeah how you doing

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how you doing today is monday november

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335 days into the new year only 31 days

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that's it tomorrow's december 1st 30

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holy crap we made it

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we made it we are live

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we're in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south

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far and near this is fade to black for

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the game changer network and kgra the

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing do you have a great

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extended holiday thanksgiving i know you

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we're back we've got a great week lined

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another great week ah

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very special guest kyle conkel is here

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bass player for the band bad wolves

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that's right right here on fade to block

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ah get ready kyle will be with us at the

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bottom of the hour

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and tomorrow night i've got

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a conspiracy for you that's right

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tomorrow night we're gonna have

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conspiracy number nine

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canceled that's right and there is a

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to do fader night open lines

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all night long yeah i know everybody's

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no conspiracy tomorrow night no

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conspiracy number nine there is a

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jason is listening right now laughing

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and uh only he knows only he knows he's

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nope his health is fine

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soon and we'll do some cool show about

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time travel about crystals about

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maybe we'll find out all right so that's

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because wednesday richard dolan is here

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alien agendas the book was just released

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so get ready for all of that tonight

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kyle conkel is here

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it's really incredible and though the

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entire film which were outtakes of other

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pretty incredible moments

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um but it's the end of the film so

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the credits and i get to the end of the

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go and watch uh zappa

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uh it's it's just simply called zappa go

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and check that out

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all right uh what uh what else

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the undoing it's on hbo

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anything um but have you seen the

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undoing last night was the season finale

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that out check it out there's another

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uh documentary series it's still running

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and if you haven't seen that go and

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and uh there you go okay uh where

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you know what tomorrow night's fader

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night we'll do all of that tomorrow okay

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um also over this is where i always talk

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can go

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and check it out of this new crystal

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skull she's got

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25 pounds i think that's what she said

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einstein but it's hollow

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quartz and it's this big you've got to

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absolutely incredible

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and the website of course is einstein

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the crystalskull.com go and get your

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first maybe your second maybe your

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newest crystal skull from einstein the

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crystal skull.com the promo code is

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jimmy

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and you will get 10 off of your order

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he's got a new book coming out

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uh he's got another book coming out

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we're going to have billy on the show

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uh to announce uh his his latest book

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he's got another book

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series that's coming out uh next year

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you need to go over to forbidden

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that's the new documentary right there's

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the planet hello to everybody on youtube

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live the bunker cam how you guys doing

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all right let's get to the

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breaking news dr

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scott atlas right before the show

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a member of the white house's

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dr scott atlas yeah controversial

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has resigned all right now

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replacements are flown this could leave

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us blind to some important changes

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in the arctics that's right both the

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antarctic

292
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and the arctic as the climate warms

293
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at issues the longevity of the european

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cryostat

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2 and the american ice sat

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ii missions cryosat 2 is

297
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already way beyond its design life it

298
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was put into space back in 2010

299
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with an expectation that it would work

300
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for about three and a half years

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engineers think that they can keep it

302
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operating till around 2024

303
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but battery degradation and

304
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uh fuel leaks suggest uh not much longer

305
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than that

306
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icesat-2 was launched back in 2018

307
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with a design life of three years and

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hopefully

309
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it will last longer into the 2020s

310
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now industry around the world has

311
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started work on the spacecraft to

312
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replace

313
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these two but those aren't going to

314
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launch until 2028 maybe even beyond that

315
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because full funding to make this date a

316
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reality is not

317
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yet in place absolutely nuts let's get

318
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this show cracking happy birthday to

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today

320
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:04,800
is 68. i don't think you know what that

321
00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:08,000
word means

322
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,199
i don't think you know what that word

323
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:11,680
means of course star the princess bride

324
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homeland and rumor has it the most

325
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difficult

326
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,680
actor to work with in all of hollywood

327
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ben stiller today

328
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is 55 years old of course zoolander and

329
00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:24,399
meet the parents

330
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and uh i talked about the flight

331
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attendant

332
00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:29,040
last week if you haven't seen it check

333
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it out it's a great series uh they

334
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:31,920
released the first

335
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three episodes uh as the premiere

336
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um but i never heard of this actress

337
00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:41,759
yeah kaylie kuoko

338
00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:46,079
today is 35 and she was in the big bang

339
00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,639
theory for like 150 years but i never

340
00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:50,000
watched that show

341
00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:52,399
so i never heard of her but she's also

342
00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:54,079
the star of the flight attendant my

343
00:16:56,790 --> 00:16:55,920
daughter uh comes in we're watching the

344
00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,800
flight attendant

345
00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,560
i said man you got to see the series

346
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,920
diana it's great

347
00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,759
check it out she goes oh that's kaylee i

348
00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:03,519
love her she's awesome on the big bang

349
00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:05,360
theory i said oh really

350
00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:07,439
ah and that explains a lot that means

351
00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:08,480
she had

352
00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,679
you know 50 100 years of uh

353
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:13,919
acting behind her before the flight

354
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:15,280
attendant she's really good

355
00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:18,880
billy idol today is 65. writer

356
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:22,880
producer director ryan murphy today

357
00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:26,160
is 55 of course american horror story

358
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ratched nip tuck and i went to high

359
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:32,480
school with ryan at warren central high

360
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:33,120
school

361
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:36,400
in indy happy birthday ryan 55 years old

362
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,280
roger glover legend roger glover icon

363
00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:44,320
today is 75 rainbow that's all i got to

364
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:45,679
say produced all that stuff

365
00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:48,880
really good stacy q today

366
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the stacy q

367
00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:58,480
today is 62.

368
00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:01,919
two of hearts i need

369
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:05,120
two of hearts stacy q our dead guy's

370
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:06,240
birthday today is

371
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,360
ruby star that's right 1949 to 1995 died

372
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:13,360
at the age of 45.

373
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ruby was a rock goddess singer

374
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and recording artist who attained

375
00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:20,559
stardom for her work with black oak

376
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,280
arkansas

377
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:24,080
you remember ruby with that hair right

378
00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:25,679
incredible voice

379
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,840
and uh we all know she was featured on

380
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:29,760
their 1973 top

381
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:33,280
top 10 single jim dandy with uh black

382
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:35,679
oak arkansas in 1974 she began touring

383
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:36,720
on her own

384
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,320
uh again as ruby star and the grey ghost

385
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,559
well after being diagnosed with lung

386
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:44,400
cancer and a brain tumor

387
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:47,840
uh star died january 14 1995

388
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,799
in toledo ohio with her family at the

389
00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:52,880
age of 45.

390
00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:55,280
happy birthday ruby on this day in

391
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:57,919
history otd 1954

392
00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:01,280
the first otd right

393
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:05,679
the first meteorite strike on a human

394
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:09,120
happens on this day in 1954

395
00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:11,919
in alabama the meteorite crashed through

396
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:14,559
the roof of elizabeth hodges house

397
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:17,919
into her living room bounces off a radio

398
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,880
and then strikes her on the hip the the

399
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:22,640
pictures are incredible

400
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:26,080
and uh the meteorite weighed eight

401
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:30,240
and a half pounds fader fact

402
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:38,630
that's right trip on that that's your

403
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:39,600
fader fact

404
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:42,960
you see sharks have existed for more

405
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:45,919
than 450 million years

406
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:49,280
trees trees have

407
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:52,880
only existed on this planet

408
00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:56,480
for 350 million years there were no

409
00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:57,600
trees

410
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:02,640
on planet earth 351 million years ago

411
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,840
that's a trip and that is your favorite

412
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:07,200
fact thank you kaz that's a great

413
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:09,919
picture of ruby star there she is

414
00:20:14,149 --> 00:20:13,600
she could sing tonight very special

415
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,159
guest

416
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:16,799
uh kyle coghill is here bass player for

417
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,280
bad

418
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:19,600
wolves and we are going to talk about a

419
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,400
little bit of

420
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,480
everything tonight all my favorite stuff

421
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,400
music ufos conspiracy

422
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:26,080
time travel bigfoot we're going to get

423
00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:27,919
it all in tonight with kyle

424
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:30,159
tomorrow night is fader night because

425
00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:33,280
the conspiracy happened with

426
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:36,799
jason yeah jason quit is now his own

427
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,919
conspiracy so tomorrow night fader night

428
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:41,919
wednesday night richard dolan thursday

429
00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:44,640
night linda moulton howe

430
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,840
all right let me hit this river moon

431
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:48,240
coffee

432
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,760
yeah is that is that is that kaley from

433
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:53,039
big bang theory

434
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:54,320
is that what she looked like in the

435
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:00,630
never seen it i heard it i i heard it's

436
00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,679
good

437
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,760
maybe maybe i'll go back but now the

438
00:21:09,230 --> 00:21:06,080
show was on for like what

439
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,240
its first what first episode was in like

440
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,039
1958.

441
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:13,840
that's a lot of that's a lot of seasons

442
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,640
man

443
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,799
it's a lot of binging on the big bang

444
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,400
theory but maybe i'll check it out they

445
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,080
probably started off

446
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:22,480
they weren't even widescreen when that

447
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:29,669
man all right i

448
00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:33,120
kid hi kid

449
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:36,559
but rivermooncoffee.com

450
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:40,559
there there is one thing

451
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:44,000
that protects me from going full

452
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,430
i never go all in

453
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,070
yep never go all in

454
00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:01,039
tropic thunder reference number one i

455
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:01,919
just don't do it

456
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:05,679
i don't do it ever well hold on

457
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,640
it's not entirely true i went all in

458
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:10,559
with billy meyer

459
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:13,360
but that was 35 years ago and i

460
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:14,320
definitely

461
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:20,310
i know i've never forgotten it i remind

462
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:22,320
you about it all the time

463
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:26,000
but i'm only human shortly after that i

464
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:28,799
went all in with bob lazar

465
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:32,799
bob and that period of my life

466
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,480
lasted 30 years 30 years of

467
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:39,600
going all in with bob lazar in the end

468
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:42,720
i was pretty bummed but i didn't lose my

469
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:45,120
mind over it

470
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:48,640
i sorta went all in with bob

471
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,880
but there was enough red flags to keep

472
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:52,480
my mental health

473
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,240
in the safe zone

474
00:23:02,870 --> 00:22:59,679
now right now right now

475
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:02,880
i know that there are those out there

476
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:05,360
waiting for me to comment on the current

477
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:07,760
state of conspiracy theory that is

478
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:14,870
not gonna do it i'm staying in the safe

479
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:22,390
my sanity needs protection

480
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:25,679
so here's the deal i

481
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:29,120
am going to wait until january

482
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:33,840
21st 2021 to post my thoughts

483
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:37,840
or to speak some verbage live on the air

484
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:45,110
the nation needs to see some evidence of

485
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:49,120
something anything

486
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:52,559
we are all watching the clock tick down

487
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:56,400
time is short i

488
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:59,039
like most of you have heard all the

489
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,240
claims

490
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,039
the conspiracy theories but this time

491
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,880
around things are different

492
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,600
the claims are everywhere they're out

493
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,279
there in the media they're in social

494
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:10,880
media everybody's talking about it

495
00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:12,320
there's videos it's

496
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:15,520
everywhere it's all out in front

497
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:18,559
in the public and you would

498
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:22,080
think that there would be a huge

499
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:26,000
official government response to them

500
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:29,120
right some type of investigation

501
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,279
something anything and there has been

502
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:36,320
nothing so the whole

503
00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:42,080
thing is actually very simple to observe

504
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,919
january 21st 2021 is the date where all

505
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,360
of us

506
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,679
every single person in the country and

507
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:51,200
on the planet

508
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:54,559
will come to a conclusion

509
00:25:03,029 --> 00:24:59,360
anything after that is a moot point

510
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:03,039
now let's table the election fraud stuff

511
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:04,559
for now

512
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:08,080
okay let's table that actually let's

513
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:09,520
table it for 50 days

514
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:13,600
to be more precise and let's talk about

515
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:21,110
you see here is a perfect example

516
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:25,360
of when not to go all in

517
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:27,200
when the story first broke i was like

518
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:28,640
okay cool all right

519
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:31,039
it's there there it is looking at it

520
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,880
it's real

521
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:35,120
now let's try and figure out what we

522
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:39,200
have up in the desert in utah

523
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:42,480
right simple

524
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,120
well there were thousands

525
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:50,480
maybe more who immediately

526
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:55,120
went all in it's alien it's a tt it's a

527
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,240
that's a very dangerous zone

528
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:04,950
the utah monolith is just way

529
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,240
way too easy to figure out

530
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,559
and it just took a matter of days for

531
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:12,320
the details to emerge

532
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:17,440
first off it didn't just appear

533
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:20,559
up here it didn't just appear it was

534
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,120
there

535
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:24,000
in the desert for almost five years it

536
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:24,640
first

537
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,720
showed up in google earth around 2015

538
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:29,679
2016.

539
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:32,880
second the hbo series

540
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:36,640
west world was filming in and around the

541
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:38,799
area at that time

542
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:41,919
right is this case closed

543
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:45,360
well yeah sorta sure is

544
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,640
but it was when different groups started

545
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:50,240
to show up at the scene over the last

546
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:51,279
couple of days

547
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:54,799
revealing everything that was suspected

548
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,520
right that it was man-made saw the

549
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,559
rivets up close

550
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:01,520
saw the videos probably made of sheet

551
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,000
metal

552
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,159
you know stainless steel been up there

553
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,240
for five years it looked brand new

554
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,039
and i gotta say it must have been an

555
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,880
awesome and fun adventure for those who

556
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:12,559
made the trek

557
00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:15,760
man and it's totally cool to look at

558
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:18,960
then yesterday the breaking news that it

559
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,080
had

560
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:22,640
vanished overnight remember first it

561
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:23,440
appeared

562
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,279
overnight now it's vanished overnight

563
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:27,600
gone poof

564
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,200
my guess is one of two things happened

565
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,120
right the hollywood production company

566
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:35,360
that put it there and forgot about it

567
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:38,960
uh went and packed it up that's one

568
00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:42,000
or two someone just took it for a

569
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:43,279
souvenir

570
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:46,960
right that's it

571
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,320
but it most certainly was an alien

572
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,720
sending a signal to jupiter's moon

573
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:55,120
europa

574
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:58,399
then today another monolith has shown up

575
00:28:02,710 --> 00:27:59,440
in romania

576
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,720
more aliens at work right the romanian

577
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:04,880
monolith isn't quite as cool looking as

578
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,919
utah's it's got some amateur polishing

579
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:09,120
on its surface but hey

580
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:11,039
you gotta love the effort right who

581
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,159
knows

582
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,320
maybe we'll have monoliths popping up

583
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:15,600
all over the world from different

584
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,320
artists

585
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,880
who want to make a statement right and i

586
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:19,600
applaud it

587
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:23,679
i do go for it and maybe

588
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,320
just maybe q will resurface

589
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,799
and tie all the monoliths to election

590
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:33,760
fraud in dominion

591
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,039
rumor has it that the last one will

592
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:39,520
appear in washington dc on january 20th

593
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:40,640
2021

594
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:43,279
just in time for my first public

595
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,240
comments about

596
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:48,240
our future the next day on the 21st

597
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:51,919
hopefully this time westworld won't be

598
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,960
filming in front of the lincoln memorial

599
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,600
you see this is how i protect my sanity

600
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folks

601
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:02,880
i don't go all in yet it's just like the

602
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movie tropic thunder

603
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:07,200
reference number two right

604
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:11,039
and you you may not have gone all in

605
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,240
but you know someone who has maybe it's

606
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your spouse maybe it's your best friend

607
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and you know that there is nothing you

608
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can say

609
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,080
you don't bring anything up right or

610
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:24,320
you're in for a two hour crazy talk

611
00:29:27,870 --> 00:29:25,919
session and you don't want to go there

612
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:27,880
you avoid all talk about

613
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,840
conspiracy because

614
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:33,840
you don't want to look into those crazy

615
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:35,440
eyes

616
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:38,720
and you know what i'm talking about

617
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:40,720
you don't want to be responsible for

618
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:42,880
pushing someone over the edge

619
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:46,320
or in this case the cliff just let

620
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:47,520
things play out

621
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,039
they always do and on january 21st

622
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:53,440
we'll know the end game no matter what

623
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:54,720
it is

624
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:57,600
right we'll have the answers and

625
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,240
hopefully

626
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,480
your friend with the crazy eyes will

627
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,720
start to put a foot into reality and we

628
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can start to move on to our next

629
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:07,679
great conspiracy theory and i'm going to

630
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start

631
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:11,440
it right now with the number 18

632
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and the letter r quote me

633
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,240
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

634
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:19,760
to black tonight

635
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:22,480
kyle conkel is here bass player for bad

636
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:23,360
wolves

637
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:24,559
stay right there it's going to be a

638
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great show going to be a great

639
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conversation

640
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:28,159
tomorrow night is fader night fader

641
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night is not thursday

642
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tomorrow's tuesday that's going to be

643
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fader night wednesday night

644
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richard dolan thursday night linda

645
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moulton howe

646
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this is fade to black on the game

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changer network and kg r

648
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a the planet i'm yours jimmy church

649
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follow me right now on twitter at

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j church radio i'll be right back with

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tonight's guest

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kyle conkel stay right there

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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black on jimmychurchradio.com

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your father's radio show on the game

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[Music]

759
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,030
all right welcome back fade to block i'm

760
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,200
your host jimmy church

761
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,359
you can follow me on twitter at j church

762
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,800
radio you can follow kyle

763
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:59,200
at ksconkyo right there i've got it up

764
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,960
in the twitter feed for everybody go

765
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:02,800
follow kyle

766
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:05,920
tonight he joins us but i want to remind

767
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,320
everybody tomorrow night

768
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:11,119
fader night vader night is not thursday

769
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:11,440
it

770
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:14,960
is tomorrow night okay very simple

771
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,240
jason quit cancelled it's a conspiracy

772
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:20,640
wednesday night richard dolan thursday

773
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,720
night linda moulton howe great week here

774
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:23,920
on the show

775
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:27,280
tonight it's kyle conkel and this is the

776
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:28,000
deal

777
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,359
um i have been a bad wolves fan from

778
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:33,280
the beginning and it's it's very

779
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:34,480
interesting how

780
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:37,599
how small the world is okay but he joins

781
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,480
us tonight

782
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,320
and of course he is the base player for

783
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:42,720
bad wolves he's the host of the just

784
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:45,839
uh stay that

785
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,960
you know shut the f

786
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,119
up uh you know this is a family show but

787
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:53,200
that's his uh podcast

788
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,119
bad wolves gained notoriety of course

789
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:56,880
back in 2018 for their version of the

790
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cranberry zombie

791
00:37:02,069 --> 00:37:00,000
reaching platinum and multi-platinum

792
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:02,079
status all over the world kyle a los

793
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,200
angeles native

794
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:05,040
has been in the hollywood music scene

795
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:07,359
since 2002 we have a bunch of mutual

796
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:08,079
friends that

797
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,680
he doesn't even know about yet i'm about

798
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:11,599
to drop that on him and has played for

799
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:12,800
many bands including

800
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:16,000
in this moment world under blood scar uh

801
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,280
scar the martyr and

802
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,640
vimic i would like to welcome for the

803
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,560
first time to fade to black uh

804
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,440
uh kyle conkel kyle how you doing man

805
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,640
great man how are you doing

806
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,880
man listen to those pipes you should

807
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:28,800
have a podcast

808
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,800
is let's actually start here kyle

809
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,720
uh you're a first time guest which means

810
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,960
you get the first time guest disclaimer

811
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,560
and i know you're excited about that

812
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,320
but let's get that out of the way which

813
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,560
is kyle it's just you and i sitting on

814
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:44,240
my couch having a conversation as

815
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,960
friends and

816
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,720
where that conversation starts it starts

817
00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:48,160
where it ends it ends

818
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:50,079
but we're gonna end his friends all

819
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:51,680
right pressure

820
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,040
yeah the pressure pressure's off now um

821
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,320
uh i've got so many uh

822
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:00,240
things that that i want to discuss with

823
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,720
you tonight but i want to get a couple

824
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:04,560
of things out of the way first

825
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,880
uh the drummer kenny pierce

826
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,400
oh yeah kenny pierce yeah we worked

827
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:12,720
together at mates yeah ah

828
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:15,760
so okay so that's the connection okay

829
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:18,880
i've known kenny i've known

830
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:22,560
kenny for about 35 years

831
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:25,440
uh he used to be in a band called tazz

832
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,000
all right

833
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:28,000
before your time you know you know but

834
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:29,440
back then

835
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:32,240
um kenny and i know you know what he

836
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,599
looks like now

837
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:36,320
back then he was the cutest drummer on

838
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,430
his nickname his nickname at mates was

839
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,630
see i see that i see that back then he

840
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,160
had the flowing locks

841
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,200
and the spandex and and and wore

842
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:54,240
aqua net like nobody man he he had

843
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,520
he had it down but this is the thing

844
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:57,520
about kenny um

845
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,920
i this is my memory of kenny and him and

846
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:01,520
i have talked about this so many times

847
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:02,800
over the years but

848
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:06,480
um back in like 87 we shared a rehearsal

849
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:07,599
studio together

850
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:11,040
in a downtown los angeles somewhere and

851
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:14,880
uh we had the same manager and kenny

852
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:18,720
loved van halen right and so

853
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,760
he could play any van halen too and i

854
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,599
was a you know i was an eddie guy

855
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:26,000
and i you know played the and him and i

856
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,640
would sit

857
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:29,680
and jam van halen for hours

858
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:33,040
just the two of us right no bass player

859
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:36,160
no no singer but him and i would uh just

860
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,119
did i just i

861
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,680
love that guy to death and a huge talent

862
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,359
have you ever played with him

863
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,200
no i've never had the chance to jam with

864
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,640
him um

865
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:47,359
when i was when we worked together gosh

866
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:48,400
i can't even remember

867
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:51,440
probably like six seven years ago

868
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,480
um i was doing multiple projects and i

869
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,160
just didn't have the time

870
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,280
and uh have you ever heard him play

871
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:01,040
i've no i've never heard him play wow

872
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:02,960
wow that's crazy

873
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,599
he is he's a he is he's one of the best

874
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:07,440
drummers that i know

875
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:09,520
and you're a great bass player i can't

876
00:40:13,109 --> 00:40:11,119
believe that you two guys

877
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:13,119
are next to each other never had a

878
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:14,319
chance to jam

879
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:16,900
i'm moderately like accurate that's it

880
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:19,760
[Laughter]

881
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:23,440
oh next thing um i wanted to

882
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:26,960
run by you um has anybody

883
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:30,480
told you that uh that you're guilfoyle

884
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:33,359
from silicon valley i've never seen that

885
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,760
show

886
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:35,760
and i think i've heard a reference to

887
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:36,880
that

888
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,560
but dude you are guilfoyle

889
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,240
i've never seen that show so i have no

890
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,920
idea i swear

891
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,599
you're gonna watch it just go and watch

892
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,440
it and you are gonna be so

893
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:49,520
self-conscious now i'm gonna mess up

894
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,720
your life

895
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,400
for like the next six months you're

896
00:40:55,630 --> 00:40:54,480
gonna be uh they're looking at me they

897
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,640
think i'm guilfoyle

898
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,359
[Laughter]

899
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,440
so but anyway okay so i got that stuff

900
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:01,359
out of the way um

901
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:04,560
this is this is the deal um and then

902
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,319
we'll we'll get off to other things but

903
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,800
the one thing that's on everybody's mind

904
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:11,119
is this pandemic and what we're going

905
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:11,920
through

906
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:15,280
um you're you're in not only in a great

907
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:15,920
band but

908
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:19,280
a very popular band and you're not

909
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,079
touring

910
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:22,240
right how did how are you getting how'd

911
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,440
you get through this year

912
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:25,040
yeah i want everybody to know i'm

913
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:27,280
looking at kyle's studio

914
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:30,079
um how many bases are racked up behind

915
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,720
you

916
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:32,800
there are nine bases and two guitars and

917
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:35,200
one electric and one acoustic guitar man

918
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:37,599
that is just uh yeah that's just

919
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:38,319
beautiful

920
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,880
it how are you guys dealing with it and

921
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,079
when do you expect

922
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:47,280
to head back out on tour uh as for

923
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:48,480
touring i'm not really

924
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,880
sure yet you know some people have said

925
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,160
summer 2021

926
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:54,960
some people have said closer to fall

927
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:55,599
winter

928
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:58,160
2021 some people are saying 2022 so i

929
00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:59,040
really don't have

930
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,839
uh like a real answer to that question

931
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,119
but uh you know we're working on the

932
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:04,960
third bad wolves record right now

933
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,200
um originally we only had two months to

934
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,960
work on the record

935
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:10,960
and then you know stuff started

936
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,280
canceling so we had more and more time

937
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,520
so i think we were putting more into

938
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,040
this album

939
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:19,520
than maybe even the first one but i know

940
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,160
because

941
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,920
john wrote a lot of the stuff on the

942
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,160
first record and he spent years kind of

943
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,440
putting that together

944
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,040
and i definitely know that we put more

945
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,960
time in uh

946
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,359
than we did on the second record so

947
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:33,040
we've just been kind of working on that

948
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,040
um and we also have a banned patreon

949
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,440
so like you know we have exclusive songs

950
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:40,640
exclusive merch

951
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,440
uh you know me chris kane my guitar

952
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:45,920
player doc coyle my guitar player

953
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:48,560
and john burkland our drummer we go on

954
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,280
there

955
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,839
and you know we do like live q and a's

956
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,280
like today was my day

957
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,280
so you know i go on there for about an

958
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,280
hour i answer questions i do

959
00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:00,640
jams you know i try to make it as

960
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,760
entertaining as possible and uh you know

961
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:04,960
our singer tommy

962
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,800
uh he's been working on a lot of covers

963
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,119
so he like posts those every friday

964
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:11,200
and i think we're up to like i think

965
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,240
like 22

966
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:14,000
exclusive songs on the band patreon

967
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:15,280
account well

968
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,640
we're going to talk about tommy in a

969
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:18,800
second uh extreme talent

970
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,079
the whole band is is right there too

971
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:24,640
um and and i do want to talk about all

972
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:25,599
of that but

973
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,079
you guys um enjoyed something that

974
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,440
most musicians uh dream about and that

975
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:36,400
you guys got shot out of a cannon right

976
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:36,880
and the

977
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,800
the the the zombie single just took off

978
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,839
like it did

979
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,560
you've got zoltan you know bathroom uh

980
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:46,880
uh working with you guys you head out

981
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:49,680
uh with five finger death punch and

982
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:50,480
you've got

983
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,520
your your your everything's charting

984
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,680
you're shooting on all cylinders that

985
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:58,000
must have felt pretty good

986
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:01,440
it was really weird because when we

987
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,720
when we first started you know john

988
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:07,280
who's he was the founder of the band uh

989
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,000
he was just like

990
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:10,480
you know i hope you guys are ready for

991
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:12,000
you know a few years in a

992
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,839
shitty tour van and and then uh

993
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,760
you know the the label and management

994
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:19,200
were just kind of asking us

995
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:22,319
like hey like we really need like a

996
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:22,800
strong

997
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,760
single to to to come out with and then

998
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,960
tommy had uh

999
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,800
had zombie and they're like well what

1000
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:30,400
about this

1001
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:34,000
so they liked it enough and then our

1002
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:35,680
uh one of our representatives from the

1003
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,760
uk dan waite

1004
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,520
used to manage the cranberries back in

1005
00:44:45,990 --> 00:44:41,280
the mid 90s

1006
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:46,000
and so he sent her a dolores o'riordan

1007
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:49,920
our version of zombie and she loved it

1008
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,319
uh

1009
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,640
she wanted to sing on it and you know

1010
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:54,720
long story short she flew to london to

1011
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,160
do her

1012
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,560
her contribute her vocals to that song

1013
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,000
but she never made it to the studio she

1014
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:01,920
had passed away the night before

1015
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,040
um and we were trying to navigate how to

1016
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:06,480
release that

1017
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:09,760
without you know

1018
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,839
without being disrespectful because we

1019
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:13,040
still loved the song

1020
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,280
right you know right and we had her

1021
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,440
blessing to do it to begin with

1022
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,560
um so when we were releasing it

1023
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,960
we just decided that you know all the

1024
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:24,400
proceeds

1025
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:27,359
that we would have collected on that

1026
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,920
song

1027
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,280
were just going to donate to her

1028
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:31,200
children so

1029
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:34,960
we we did that the song

1030
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:37,280
did more than i think any of us ever

1031
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:39,280
could have even imagined

1032
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:42,640
and uh it was really weird like having

1033
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:44,400
my friends call me and you know i grew

1034
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,359
up in la

1035
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,720
you know having my buddy josh newell

1036
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:48,880
who's a producer in la he calls me he's

1037
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:49,599
like dude

1038
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:52,480
zombies on k rock right now and i'm just

1039
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,800
like

1040
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:55,520
whoa what so i you know i'm driving and

1041
00:46:03,750 --> 00:45:55,920
i

1042
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,760
dream to be on k rock you know and uh

1043
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,560
and you know we went from a you know a

1044
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,200
15 passenger van to a

1045
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,200
not so great tour bus to another not so

1046
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:13,280
great tour bus to a really good tour bus

1047
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:15,040
um and you know we've all been very

1048
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,319
fortunate and

1049
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,160
you know i feel super lucky to be a part

1050
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,560
of something that that was kind of like

1051
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:23,440
almost a cultural phenomenon for for a

1052
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:24,640
time there in

1053
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,800
in 2018 and uh yeah i mean

1054
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,040
i'm still kind of speechless you know

1055
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,319
i'm look i look around my

1056
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:35,119
my studio and we've got our plaques that

1057
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,640
i hang on the walls and stuff like that

1058
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:38,079
and i was just like i'm not i've never

1059
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:38,880
even

1060
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:41,119
thought being in a you know rock slash

1061
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,160
metal band

1062
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:44,319
that i would be i would have wanted you

1063
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,839
know a platinum plaque you know what i

1064
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:47,359
mean

1065
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,359
yeah and uh take me through the process

1066
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,480
of uh the band got uh

1067
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:56,720
put together this is a new project it's

1068
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:57,680
2017

1069
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,280
2018. and you're you're here

1070
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:03,520
by the way uh i want the audience to

1071
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:04,480
know that

1072
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,760
uh kyle is like a half a mile from where

1073
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:10,560
i am right now right we're we're

1074
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:11,280
literally

1075
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:14,880
neighbors and uh but how do you

1076
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:18,640
how do you find uh the right guys

1077
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:22,400
in in in rock in los angeles

1078
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,119
to uh to put together a band that's

1079
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,359
nearly perfect like that out of the gate

1080
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:30,000
it's got to be tough these days well i

1081
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:30,400
know

1082
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:33,520
so john had quit double driver

1083
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,119
in 2014 i want to say 2012 i don't

1084
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,119
remember exactly the year that he quit

1085
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:41,359
um but he had just been writing

1086
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,559
different kinds of music

1087
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,720
and from the stories that he told me he

1088
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,119
was just like scrolling on instagram

1089
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:49,440
and he knew chris because chris had been

1090
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,640
in bury your dead

1091
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:52,240
and bury barrier dead and devil driver

1092
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,760
had toured a bunch

1093
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,760
and uh he saw chris playing a bunch of

1094
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:57,359
shreddy stuff and he goes oh man

1095
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,640
i wonder if this guy would want to be in

1096
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,960
a band with me so he hit up chris

1097
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,480
chris agreed to be in the band so it was

1098
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,040
like john and chris from the beginning

1099
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:07,200
and uh you know we tr they tried out a

1100
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,559
whole bunch of

1101
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:11,760
different uh singers like i know um

1102
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,440
mike terry from barrier dead and volumes

1103
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,119
had done some stuff a couple other guys

1104
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:18,640
had done some stuff

1105
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,520
and then uh john had sent some songs to

1106
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:22,800
our singer tommy

1107
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,839
and it just he brought like a new life

1108
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:27,599
to those songs you know

1109
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,880
and then uh and we they needed a second

1110
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:31,920
guitar player

1111
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:35,359
and um you know doc

1112
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,800
and john had known each other for a

1113
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,800
while and you know doc wasn't he was

1114
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,480
only doing vegas nerve at that time he

1115
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,319
had already quit god forbid

1116
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:44,000
and uh he was just like hey you want to

1117
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,319
be my band and they actually bugged me

1118
00:48:49,829 --> 00:48:48,400
for like a year and i think they tried

1119
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,839
out like two or three people

1120
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,079
before i joined the band but i was doing

1121
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,839
my other band vimic

1122
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,839
with a member like former members of

1123
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,280
strap young lad and

1124
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:00,400
and slipknot and uh

1125
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,160
one day it was like march of 2017.

1126
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:06,640
i had just kind of called doc on a whim

1127
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,359
you know i

1128
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:09,040
there was a lot of uncertainty happening

1129
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,640
in my band at that time not a whole lot

1130
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:11,920
going on

1131
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:14,640
and uh i just i was like hey man do you

1132
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:15,280
know

1133
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:18,319
who are looking for bass players and

1134
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,880
he's like

1135
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:21,040
hold on a second hold on hold on a

1136
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:22,720
minute hold on a minute

1137
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:26,000
every band needs a bass player right

1138
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:29,200
you're never unemployed right

1139
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,200
that's just the way it is in the music

1140
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:32,960
biz man

1141
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,880
i mean you know i've been very fortunate

1142
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,359
over the last eight years

1143
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,839
uh i've had overlapping gigs so it's

1144
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:41,680
like i haven't i haven't

1145
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,960
left a band without having something

1146
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:46,720
else lined up

1147
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:49,359
um but yeah so i just asked i was like

1148
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,480
hey do you know anybody looking for a

1149
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,920
bass player and you know he puts the

1150
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:53,200
phone down i hear some commotion he's

1151
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,760
like

1152
00:49:57,910 --> 00:49:55,760
do you want to be a music video and it's

1153
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,920
like the gig that i had told them like

1154
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:59,520
you know i don't know if i if i can do

1155
00:50:03,030 --> 00:49:59,920
this

1156
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:03,040
i might be too busy i just still happen

1157
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:04,480
to be there waiting for me

1158
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,839
uh because john and doc and tommy

1159
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,440
i didn't know chris before before we

1160
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:11,520
shot the music video for learn to live

1161
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:15,200
um they all knew that i was that i could

1162
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,839
play

1163
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:17,599
the material and i would fit in with

1164
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:19,760
them and you know have

1165
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:22,800
good camaraderie with everybody and uh

1166
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:23,680
so when i said

1167
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:24,720
when he's like do you want to be in a

1168
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:26,079
music video i was like all right this is

1169
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,880
this is for

1170
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:28,559
at the time the band was called eye of

1171
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:30,000
tongues

1172
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:33,119
um so i was like yeah i'll come be in

1173
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,720
the i'll come be in the music video and

1174
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,240
that was the learn to live

1175
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,920
uh music video shoot that we shot

1176
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:40,640
ourselves in uh i think it was like

1177
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:41,280
march

1178
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,280
that year

1179
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,839
the band signed to 11 7 which is now

1180
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:49,520
better noise music

1181
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:52,960
and then we released zombie in

1182
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:57,920
january or february yeah january of 2018

1183
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:00,960
2018 and uh

1184
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:04,000
had you had you heard a lot

1185
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:08,480
of of material from tommy uh beforehand

1186
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,160
so i actually played bass on

1187
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,920
so i tried out for one of his back in

1188
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,000
2006 i tried out for the band that he

1189
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:18,880
was in with dino kazara's divine heresy

1190
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,280
but i wasn't old enough to do bar shows

1191
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:22,640
at the time they just didn't want to

1192
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,000
have somebody who was under the age of

1193
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:25,760
21.

1194
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,640
and uh so i was like all right cool and

1195
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:30,480
uh tommy's always kind of hit me up for

1196
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:31,040
gigs

1197
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:34,079
you know he hit me up to do stuff uh and

1198
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:35,599
i ended up playing i think on like half

1199
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:36,640
the record

1200
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,480
i think it's like me doc and bill hudson

1201
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,359
who played bass on the first westfield

1202
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,920
massacre record

1203
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:48,319
and uh he had asked me to join westfield

1204
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,280
at the time

1205
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,599
but i was too busy doing stuff with

1206
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,800
vimic

1207
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:54,720
and uh and then yeah you know a few

1208
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:55,839
years later

1209
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,640
uh stars kind of aligned just right and

1210
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,240
we were able to

1211
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:02,079
actually do a project with you know now

1212
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,280
bad bulls what's it

1213
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:06,000
what's it like um i think all of us are

1214
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,119
a little bit jealous

1215
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,760
when a band has got a singer that can do

1216
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:11,359
just about anything

1217
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:14,240
and and and tommy's got that right he

1218
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:14,720
he's

1219
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:18,319
yeah

1220
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:22,880
it like to be able to

1221
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:25,520
to write knowing that uh you've got a

1222
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:26,400
singer that

1223
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:29,119
can handle everything well it gives us a

1224
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,240
little bit more

1225
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,240
creative freedom because we don't really

1226
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,400
have to stick to one genre

1227
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,000
like a lot of people that know us may

1228
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:38,000
know us for our radio songs

1229
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,760
and they might not listen to some of our

1230
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,440
other material

1231
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:44,160
but if you listen to you know i guess

1232
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:45,280
would be considered the b

1233
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:48,880
sides of disobey or nation um

1234
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:52,160
we're a heavy metal band and having

1235
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:52,880
someone

1236
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,319
who can not just do radio

1237
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:59,200
rock style songs but also be diverse

1238
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,079
enough

1239
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:02,720
to when we're really doing heavy metal

1240
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:04,720
um i think is super important because

1241
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:05,520
it's like

1242
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:08,960
you know we we're not trying to be

1243
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,520
one type of thing you know because there

1244
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,720
are a lot of metal bands they're just

1245
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,319
like we're just a metal band

1246
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,000
we're not going to do these soft ass

1247
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,240
songs but like

1248
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,760
we kind of do everything there's like

1249
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,599
some prague influence stuff

1250
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,760
there's radio stuff and it's just like

1251
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,599
we're not putting ourselves

1252
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:28,480
in you know in a certain corner because

1253
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,280
we all like

1254
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,839
tons of different music like i love me

1255
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:33,119
and john

1256
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,720
love 80s pop music like new wave

1257
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,359
or you know like huey lewis in the news

1258
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:40,880
michael jackson

1259
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:43,839
you know we're we're more than just you

1260
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,400
know

1261
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:47,520
metal guys and i think

1262
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:50,480
coming from so much different like

1263
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,160
coming from different bands

1264
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:54,960
and but also coming from a whole list of

1265
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,880
different influences

1266
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:59,359
past and present i think putting

1267
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:01,839
ourselves into one section of a genre

1268
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:06,400
would do the band itself a disservice

1269
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:10,400
what do you uh what do you make of uh

1270
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:13,440
the metal world today and and rock and

1271
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:16,640
roll in general you know is it is

1272
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:19,839
is it here is it strong is it solid

1273
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:22,400
is it an illusion that it's not there

1274
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,280
you know because

1275
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,680
there's so many other uh things that

1276
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:26,640
dominate

1277
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,559
the airwaves you know what's going on

1278
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:33,599
i mean from the last two years that we

1279
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,839
have been touring pretty much

1280
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:38,000
consistently

1281
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:39,200
you know we've played with a bunch of

1282
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,400
different bands yeah we've played a lot

1283
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:42,000
with finger death punch

1284
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,440
but you know we've gone out with bands

1285
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:45,520
like three days grace nothing more

1286
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,160
breaking benjamin nickelback you know

1287
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:50,000
we've kind of been around

1288
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:53,520
uh oh also shine down and i mean

1289
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:56,640
any of the arena shows

1290
00:55:01,829 --> 00:55:00,240
uh festivals i mean i've never

1291
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,839
i would i would definitely say if anyone

1292
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:03,760
says rock is dead they're

1293
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:06,559
they're they're not going to shows

1294
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,200
because

1295
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,680
i mean there were you know we played in

1296
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:11,119
indiana i can't remember the name of the

1297
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:12,400
venue

1298
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:15,280
we played in indiana with uh it was us

1299
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,160
nothing more

1300
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,240
breaking benjamin and five finger death

1301
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,400
punch and i think

1302
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,119
there was like 22 000 people at this

1303
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:25,280
amphitheater

1304
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:28,640
um i mean

1305
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,000
i don't know i don't see it i mean i

1306
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,839
think when when everything was getting

1307
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:33,359
shut down

1308
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:36,960
um we were looking at another revival

1309
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,480
of you know because they say things just

1310
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,240
kind of go in circles that's right like

1311
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,400
it seemed like you know rock was kind of

1312
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:45,359
going down and but i was i was really

1313
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:45,680
start

1314
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,799
resurgence and

1315
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,400
you know and once everything kind of

1316
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:52,000
goes back to

1317
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:55,200
normal i mean there's no way you're

1318
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,319
going to be able to keep people from

1319
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,839
going to shows now

1320
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,359
i have a feeling shows are just going to

1321
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,240
be selling out left and right in droves

1322
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:05,359
do you have uh do you

1323
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,480
have any like tour dates booked in 2023

1324
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,480
well we still have tour dates booked for

1325
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,880
next summer because we had to postpone

1326
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:16,960
we were gonna go out with uh stained and

1327
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:18,160
disturbed

1328
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,119
um in july it was july to september so

1329
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,920
we postponed those to july of next year

1330
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,359
so i'm really hoping that we could we

1331
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:27,040
could keep those dates and keep that

1332
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:28,079
locked in

1333
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,839
um i mean i was really looking forward

1334
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:31,359
to go out on that like three bands

1335
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,920
amphitheaters in the summer like

1336
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:35,280
you know yeah you'll catch some summer

1337
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:36,480
rain every now and again but for the

1338
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,839
most part it's you know it's great

1339
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:38,960
weather and it's

1340
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,520
you know now it's good times before we

1341
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:43,839
hit the break we've got uh two minutes

1342
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,319
i'm just

1343
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:46,000
this is me this is just a personal

1344
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:47,440
question yeah

1345
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,559
is zoltan as cool as i think he is

1346
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,799
zoltan is i mean you got to think of it

1347
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:54,240
like this like this guy was an

1348
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:57,440
immigrant came from nothing came over

1349
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,839
from hungary with five dollars in his

1350
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:01,040
pocket

1351
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,920
and you know he's he's got his hands

1352
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:05,280
everywhere like you know

1353
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:07,599
he has his hands in like bc rich guitars

1354
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,760
and you know he helps manage us he's got

1355
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,280
his hands and so many so

1356
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,599
business smart and he's a philanthropist

1357
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,359
you know he's giving back

1358
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:17,359
yeah he gives back to his community and

1359
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,880
he doesn't like ever brag about it like

1360
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:20,480
you wouldn't know about it

1361
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:23,680
you know he doesn't tell people about it

1362
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,880
um but i mean i mean i think zoltan is

1363
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,319
dope and he's definitely

1364
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,240
definitely a person that i look up to

1365
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,000
regardless if you like his band or not

1366
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:34,240
he's just an influential person

1367
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:37,520
you know i i i can only imagine um

1368
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:41,119
i mean five finger uh when they first

1369
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:42,640
came out and they got my attention

1370
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,400
because they had like the coolest name

1371
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,000
that you could ever have for a band

1372
00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:47,599
right let's let's just go right there

1373
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:48,559
first

1374
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,720
um but they yeah they rock

1375
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:54,960
but they have personality they're funny

1376
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:57,839
the stage show the presence the way that

1377
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:00,960
yeah the the way a full uh

1378
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,480
like a phd in crowd control well and

1379
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,960
see i've also played in every i've

1380
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:08,720
opened up for them in every aspect of

1381
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,599
their career

1382
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,599
because i was in a local band in 2005

1383
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:13,599
called grimefield and we used to open up

1384
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,079
for them

1385
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:16,000
at the knitting factory at the whiskey a

1386
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,599
go-go before they were ever signed

1387
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:19,839
right right right and then we and then

1388
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:22,240
when i was in this moment in 2010

1389
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,599
we we played with them on the mayhem

1390
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:25,040
festival when they were just starting to

1391
00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:26,720
open up the main stage

1392
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,119
and then now in bad wolves they're the

1393
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:31,760
they're the closers every night you know

1394
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:35,520
it's got to be totally cool um to uh

1395
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,960
uh to be in front of a crowd like that

1396
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:41,280
uh because when you watch the videos you

1397
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,160
see

1398
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,160
uh not only in your videos but in their

1399
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:45,839
videos the crowd is there to have a good

1400
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:46,400
time

1401
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,799
and they don't hold back no no no it's

1402
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,680
great i

1403
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honestly knuckleheads are are great to

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play to

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knuckleheads i mean they know it's from

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zombie

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they don't realize that we're gonna come

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in hot with songs like you know like

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i'll be there

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officer down for friend and they're just

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like jesus

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um i remember uh i'm gonna leave you

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00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,160
with this thought and then we're gonna

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00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:09,599
head to a break

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00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:12,960
um when zombie was released

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00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:17,599
when okay when she passed

1417
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:21,119
and the video came out i spoke about

1418
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:24,319
all of that on this show and and about

1419
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:26,160
bad wolves and about the video and the

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story behind it and

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and the text and and the emails that

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went back and forth

1423
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:33,839
and to to have you on the show tonight

1424
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,839
uh to kind of come full circle

1425
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,920
that's the way the universe works man

1426
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,839
and uh it's a very cool thing so it's an

1427
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,359
honor stay right there

1428
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,440
let's take our first break our guest

1429
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:46,079
tonight kyle conkel from bad wolves

1430
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and this is the deal when we come back

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we're going to swing through everything

1432
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tonight we're going to talk some

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conspiracy with kyle we're going to talk

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ufos

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we're going to talk radio we're going to

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talk about his podcast we're going to

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talk about ndes

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and i think i'm going to squeeze in some

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bigfoot

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all of that and much more after this

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short break i'm yours jimmy church this

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me all right welcome back fade to black

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i

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later

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and then wednesday night richard dolan

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is here to talk about his new book that

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was just released

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and then thursday night linda moulton

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howe our annual

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linda moulton howe holiday special event

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tonight it's kyle coghill and kyle

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now um getting away from uh music

1577
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:02,960
uh will circle back um but

1578
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:05,520
i want to talk conspiracy and in the in

1579
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:06,559
the regal

1580
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:09,920
all right all right and uh the reason oh

1581
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,039
i got to do your podcast

1582
01:06:17,349 --> 01:06:16,240
can can i do it can i can i invite

1583
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:17,359
myself

1584
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,280
yeah let's do it okay all right all

1585
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:20,960
right i'm holding you to it

1586
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:23,200
okay all right all right i'm the next

1587
01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:24,000
guest

1588
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:27,440
um but conspiracy because

1589
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:30,960
uh today uh

1590
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:33,839
certainly over the last year um

1591
01:06:39,430 --> 01:06:36,799
conspiracy conspiracy theory

1592
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:39,440
is now in the mainstream right it's all

1593
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,720
over it's all over

1594
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:42,720
social media it's all over the media

1595
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:43,760
it's it's it's

1596
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:46,079
it's everywhere now it's the main

1597
01:06:50,069 --> 01:06:47,359
subject

1598
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:50,079
is this is is this a zone that the

1599
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:52,559
united states really wants to go into

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01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:54,160
do we need the whole country to be

1601
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:55,680
conspiracy theorists

1602
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,559
or right or is are we better just in our

1603
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:00,559
own little community

1604
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:04,000
i mean it's really tough because

1605
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:06,880
if you have the platform and you have

1606
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,240
the money

1607
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,480
you can pretty much publish whatever you

1608
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:12,400
want and make it

1609
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:15,680
seem as legit as possible if you have

1610
01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:16,960
enough people sharing it

1611
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:20,000
you know um i don't really know

1612
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:22,799
like there's there's a whole bunch of

1613
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:24,880
crazy stuff out there that i just you

1614
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:26,000
know i try to

1615
01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:29,200
do my due diligence i try to look up if

1616
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:29,839
i see

1617
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:31,920
something that i think is you know

1618
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:33,760
regardless of where it comes from

1619
01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:35,920
i try to look and see who owns that

1620
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:36,960
website

1621
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:39,039
you know what i mean i try to see if it

1622
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:40,400
comes from

1623
01:07:46,470 --> 01:07:43,760
uh you know regardless if you're anti

1624
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,480
um msm or whatever i try to see if it

1625
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,880
comes from at least a somewhat reliable

1626
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:50,400
source which is so much harder and

1627
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:51,920
harder to find these days

1628
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:54,640
and do people well okay so you're

1629
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,880
sensible with it right

1630
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,640
you know you're i try you're

1631
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,160
professional about it you're a

1632
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:02,079
professional conspiracy theorist

1633
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:06,079
um so many don't take that next step

1634
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,319
right i just see the ad and they're just

1635
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,000
like that is that goes

1636
01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,359
with what i i am where i stand i am not

1637
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:15,359
going to do any research whatsoever

1638
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:18,480
i'm just going to post it right and is

1639
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:19,279
is not

1640
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,480
having uh some degree

1641
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:26,239
of discernment uh that's a bad thing

1642
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,880
right or what was sharing sharing

1643
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:30,239
without

1644
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:33,520
uh uh investigating are you

1645
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:36,080
then becoming part of the problem well i

1646
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,199
think so but it

1647
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:39,359
like it like it really depends because

1648
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:40,560
like

1649
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:44,480
uh bad looking news travels much faster

1650
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,520
than any good news

1651
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:46,799
that's right it doesn't matter what it

1652
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:49,199
is bad news will always travel

1653
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:52,239
so much faster than good news and

1654
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:55,120
you know if someone says something and

1655
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,719
it's like a you know something that

1656
01:09:04,229 --> 01:08:58,080
someone

1657
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:04,239
only hear about the initial bad thing

1658
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:06,719
that somebody says and you won't ever

1659
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:07,279
really

1660
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,279
hear the retraction if it's ever made

1661
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:11,679
because like i said bad news will always

1662
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:15,440
over travel good news yeah i i commented

1663
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,920
about that

1664
01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:17,679
you make you make one of the best points

1665
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,960
out there

1666
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:21,199
i made that comment about retractions

1667
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:22,640
you can say

1668
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,359
whatever you want and the next day

1669
01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:26,640
retract it

1670
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:29,359
it doesn't matter no the the story has

1671
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,640
got legs now

1672
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,880
and that's the end of it nobody's ever

1673
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:34,719
going to read a retraction even if you

1674
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:36,239
did retract it

1675
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:39,440
yeah so it's kind of just like

1676
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,040
you know and that and that's kind of why

1677
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:42,560
you know this whole

1678
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:47,199
season i've i've tried to stay

1679
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:50,880
out of politics i've tried to just

1680
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,000
i mean honestly who cares who i who i

1681
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:56,080
want or what i want to vote for

1682
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:00,400
i mean you know i i've tried to stay as

1683
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,000
neutral as possible and if i

1684
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:06,640
saw something regardless of what side it

1685
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,280
come from

1686
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:10,080
you know uh republican democratic

1687
01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:11,520
libertarian

1688
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:13,840
independent what have you i always try

1689
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,560
to see

1690
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,880
where that source of news is coming from

1691
01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:17,840
because

1692
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:20,320
for the most part all of those like

1693
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:21,600
click-baity

1694
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:25,440
type headers from those news sources

1695
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,880
are all biased every one it's a it's

1696
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,239
opinion every single one of them yeah

1697
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:32,560
yeah yeah and and i don't do politics on

1698
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:33,199
this show

1699
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:36,480
as you know and and we it

1700
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:39,280
seems like we could be talking about

1701
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:41,199
politics right now

1702
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:43,120
or we could be talking about anything

1703
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:44,400
else too as well

1704
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:46,080
so well i was listening i was listening

1705
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:47,679
to i was listening to your show before i

1706
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:48,560
came on

1707
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:50,080
and you were talking about the utah

1708
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:51,600
monolith and

1709
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:54,560
um and i saw this post earlier today i

1710
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:55,600
wish i would have saved it and

1711
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:56,719
screenshot it

1712
01:11:02,950 --> 01:10:59,840
but i saw a post of somebody who was

1713
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,960
apparently there when it was removed

1714
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,480
and i don't know if it was removed by

1715
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:05,920
the people who put it there or because i

1716
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:07,440
know it was on private property at least

1717
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:08,800
i think it was on private property if i

1718
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:10,080
read correctly

1719
01:11:13,830 --> 01:11:11,840
um but they were just like you got your

1720
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:13,840
pictures cool and they literally just

1721
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:15,120
like pushed it over

1722
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:17,840
took it in a weird wheelbarrow and left

1723
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:18,880
it like there was

1724
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:20,719
like like it was completely untouched

1725
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,400
like there was before and after photos

1726
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,840
and all this stuff

1727
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:26,000
and uh and then they climbed up on the

1728
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:27,199
people who were there climbed up on the

1729
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:27,679
rock

1730
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:30,800
and um they were just kind of saying

1731
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,320
how like all these people who had come

1732
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,320
in in droves were like

1733
01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:36,000
messing with the area because there's no

1734
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,600
roads to this

1735
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,840
so they were coming from like 20 sides

1736
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:41,360
all sides around the mountain like

1737
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:42,159
messing up the

1738
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,679
agriculture of the area right right

1739
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,760
you know and uh then there's been a

1740
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:49,760
couple other things that i've seen

1741
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,360
uh over the last six months like um

1742
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,520
those there was two different two

1743
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:57,280
different posts about it

1744
01:12:01,189 --> 01:12:00,320
um and they were from either vice or la

1745
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:01,199
times

1746
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,199
so i was like okay those are pretty

1747
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:05,360
notable news sources

1748
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:08,400
um and they had said that they

1749
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:11,199
that there was multiple pilots that had

1750
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:11,600
saw

1751
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:15,440
ufos or uh apparently a man in a jet

1752
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,239
pack

1753
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:19,040
right right over lax yeah yeah yeah

1754
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:19,520
right and

1755
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:20,800
there was two different accounts of it

1756
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,310
so i mean i i try to take

1757
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:31,440
things that i see as a grain of salt uh

1758
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:33,199
you know i take it at face value

1759
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,480
there's some things that can't be

1760
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:36,239
explained like the uh

1761
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:39,760
the the tic tac video

1762
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,320
uh i mean you know those were notable

1763
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,000
pilots

1764
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:47,520
and you know there's no

1765
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,199
explanation for that you know and then

1766
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,960
there was like the tom de long video

1767
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:51,840
which

1768
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:54,719
was a little bit more grainy and you

1769
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,560
know but you know i think the

1770
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:58,480
air force or somebody came out and said

1771
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:00,000
like yeah we don't know what that is

1772
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:03,760
yeah that was the navy and yeah uh

1773
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:07,440
we'll come back to this where did

1774
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:10,320
uh we're gonna get back to the tic tacs

1775
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:11,440
uh trust me

1776
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,480
um where did this interest start uh

1777
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:16,480
with conspiracy did you have crazy

1778
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:17,600
parents a

1779
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,280
crazy aunt and uncle well

1780
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:23,120
so i have two older brothers they're 10

1781
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:24,960
and 11 years older than me

1782
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:28,159
and i remember distinctively in the

1783
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:32,719
early 90s so between my ages of

1784
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,000
like five and i want to say

1785
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:39,600
10 every single time it was on tv

1786
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:42,080
my brothers would watch the x-files so

1787
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:43,920
that's kind of where i got started

1788
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,920
with with that because x-files used to

1789
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:47,440
scare me so bad

1790
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:50,880
um you know being five years old

1791
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,159
but my my step-dad

1792
01:13:58,830 --> 01:13:56,719
was really into like aliens and bigfoot

1793
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,840
like me and him watch the alien autopsy

1794
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,080
videos

1795
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:02,159
we would watch anything we would watch

1796
01:14:07,270 --> 01:14:04,239
twilight zone

1797
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:07,280
anything that had to do with aliens

1798
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:08,480
bigfoot

1799
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,520
supernatural like he was like he would

1800
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:14,159
go on like the smokinggun.com

1801
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:17,679
and like print out stuff like articles

1802
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:22,640
from that website right right and

1803
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:26,560
that kind of influence um

1804
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:29,600
was it uh was it something that helped

1805
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:30,000
you

1806
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:31,760
understand that maybe the world isn't

1807
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:34,239
what you're being spoon-fed

1808
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,960
or or did you look at your stepdad as

1809
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:37,840
maybe

1810
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,840
he's a little nuts no no i mean uh

1811
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:43,280
basically what it kind of helped me

1812
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,880
figure out because i was scared of it at

1813
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:46,239
first

1814
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:48,400
and then you know going through watching

1815
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:50,239
all this stuff learning about all this

1816
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,280
other stuff

1817
01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:54,000
is just like you know i'm not too keen

1818
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:54,880
on

1819
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:58,000
bigfoot these days but with the alien

1820
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:58,960
stuff

1821
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:01,520
especially now you know i feel like it

1822
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:02,400
just

1823
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:06,239
it makes sense because you know

1824
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:08,560
if there's infinite amounts of planets

1825
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,960
and suns and stars and solar systems

1826
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,239
like

1827
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:15,199
i mean i think you might have to be

1828
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:15,840
super

1829
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,640
narcissistic or dense to think that we

1830
01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:20,880
are the only beings

1831
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:24,560
in in the universe it's a statistical

1832
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:27,600
improbability yeah i mean it just

1833
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:30,400
it it has to be well when when i run the

1834
01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:31,760
numbers game

1835
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:34,480
uh let me throw this at you when you run

1836
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:35,760
the numbers game

1837
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:39,040
and just in our

1838
01:15:43,390 --> 01:15:42,080
milky way where we've got somewhere

1839
01:15:47,590 --> 01:15:43,400
between

1840
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:47,600
500 billion and 1 trillion stars we

1841
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,000
don't really know the number

1842
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,800
just in our milky way and we now know

1843
01:15:58,390 --> 01:15:55,199
that every single star

1844
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:58,400
has at least one planet now wait a

1845
01:16:01,030 --> 01:16:00,239
minute here that's that's in our milky

1846
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:01,040
way

1847
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:04,080
and then you take that thought

1848
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,320
and then you look at our universe and

1849
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:08,640
what we know of it what we can see

1850
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:11,760
in the observable universe and we know

1851
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,000
that there is one trillion

1852
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:18,719
galaxies right it's just like wait a

1853
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:19,520
minute here

1854
01:16:23,430 --> 01:16:21,679
you run the numbers and they just they

1855
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:23,440
just go through the roof

1856
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:27,120
so there has to be trillions

1857
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:29,280
not not a couple but trillions of

1858
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:31,040
civilizations out there it's just the

1859
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,880
only way to look at it right

1860
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,480
i mean yeah and you know you could you

1861
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:36,640
could take it as like their

1862
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:38,880
different civilizations or they could be

1863
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,080
you know

1864
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:42,880
parallel universes they could be you

1865
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:43,199
know

1866
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:46,719
whatever but i i definitely think

1867
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,840
that out of those trillion possibilities

1868
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:51,840
of other planets that have civilization

1869
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,480
on them

1870
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:54,960
there has to be a few that are as

1871
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,199
technologically advanced as ours

1872
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:59,280
and more technologically advanced than

1873
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:00,480
ours

1874
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:09,990
yes and no okay give me the yes

1875
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:13,040
well it's the same story

1876
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:16,159
okay so i mean the side of the same

1877
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:17,040
story

1878
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:18,560
all right so i was going down to

1879
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:20,719
hollywood with with a friend

1880
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,080
um and i was on the 101 southbound

1881
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:27,120
in between highland and kawanga right

1882
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:29,440
and uh you know we're in his car you

1883
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:30,560
know i'm smoking

1884
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:33,520
smoking cigarettes listening to metal

1885
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:33,840
and

1886
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,040
he goes dude what is that

1887
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:39,120
and i look up and this was probably

1888
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:41,440
2011. so you may remember this

1889
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:44,960
um 2011 or 2012

1890
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:48,239
and as we're on the freeway just in

1891
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:49,120
between

1892
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,719
highland and kawanga which is about a

1893
01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:52,800
mile and a half maybe

1894
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:57,199
oh it's probably yeah okay

1895
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,520
i was going to say that's a quarter mile

1896
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:01,760
because that exit comes up really fast

1897
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:03,199
after highland you got to get in the

1898
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:04,880
right hand lane really quick

1899
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:08,560
yeah or you end up on vine yeah

1900
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:10,719
so he just goes he he points at the sky

1901
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:12,000
and goes dude what is that

1902
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,199
and i'm like i was like i don't see

1903
01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:15,280
anything and then so i look like this

1904
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,239
sorry i moved my head away from the

1905
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:18,400
microphone so i look i kind of duck

1906
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:19,440
under the windshield

1907
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:23,360
and look up and there's like this green

1908
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:26,800
flaming ball in the sky

1909
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:29,679
and it's and i mean i can't really tell

1910
01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:31,679
where it's moving

1911
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,630
sorry i can't remember if it was green

1912
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,560
or orange like that's how

1913
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:40,719
uh you know undependable the human

1914
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:41,760
memory is

1915
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:44,239
um but i just remember seeing this ball

1916
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:46,080
of flame in the sky just moving and then

1917
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:47,600
all of a sudden it was gone

1918
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:49,760
wow and i and i remember around that

1919
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,320
time there was a bunch of these

1920
01:18:56,390 --> 01:18:55,280
sightings now i never saw anything you

1921
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:56,400
know that was like

1922
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,840
you know the phoenix lights or you know

1923
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:01,600
triangles in the sky or anything like

1924
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:04,640
that that's been the closest thing

1925
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:09,040
that i've personally seen but the friend

1926
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:13,280
wait a minute here this was

1927
01:19:19,830 --> 01:19:16,880
okay if this is a sighting that i okay i

1928
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:19,840
missed it let me explain to you that

1929
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:20,840
night

1930
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:24,560
um it wasn't even dark yet no it wasn't

1931
01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:26,800
it was not it's like in the day it was

1932
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:27,920
it was um

1933
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,719
rita and i were at universal studios

1934
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,000
right where you were

1935
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:35,280
okay um and we leave

1936
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:38,560
universal studios um like it's like five

1937
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:39,600
o'clock in the evening

1938
01:19:44,790 --> 01:19:42,719
right yeah and we get in

1939
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:44,800
our car and we're leaving and our phone

1940
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:46,880
starts ringing

1941
01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:48,800
look what's going on over los angeles

1942
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:50,320
we're like what are you talking about

1943
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:53,040
and we're driving back on the 101.

1944
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:54,640
you're going the opposite direction

1945
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:55,840
you're going to hollywood

1946
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:59,040
we're coming back to burbank and so it's

1947
01:20:04,149 --> 01:20:00,640
behind us

1948
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:04,159
and we didn't know what everybody was

1949
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:05,920
freaking out on we couldn't see it we're

1950
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,159
looking up in the sky we didn't see it

1951
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,360
it was going on behind us um i don't

1952
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:13,440
know if that was ever fully explained

1953
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:16,080
that was seen what was strange about

1954
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,040
that sighting

1955
01:20:23,510 --> 01:20:20,080
and and you're right about this um

1956
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:23,520
uh green blue orange

1957
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:26,000
it was seen all the way to san francisco

1958
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,719
yeah right

1959
01:20:30,790 --> 01:20:29,520
i think they saw it in las vegas yeah

1960
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,800
yeah that was a pretty incredible

1961
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:32,320
sighting i still don't know what it was

1962
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,159
i don't think anybody does

1963
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,880
yeah so like that's been the only thing

1964
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,480
that i've seen personally

1965
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:40,880
now the friend i was with at the time

1966
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:42,159
who's like

1967
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,280
super like mind you this is like 2011.

1968
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:47,280
he's like super into joe rogan at the

1969
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,600
time he's like you know super into like

1970
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,440
dmt and aliens

1971
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:53,120
and stuff like that and he's like

1972
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:54,800
claimed to have seen more but he's like

1973
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:57,040
dude that's an alien i swear

1974
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:00,080
and uh i mean so i was like i don't know

1975
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,600
what that is so that's why i kind of

1976
01:21:04,229 --> 01:21:03,600
answer yes and no to that because if

1977
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:04,239
there is an

1978
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:07,120
explanation for it then cool but if

1979
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,080
there's not then

1980
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:10,560
i i guess i have seen something did you

1981
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:11,120
did you

1982
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,320
um uh in your uh

1983
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:16,719
research into this did you did you get

1984
01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:20,000
books did you follow certain researchers

1985
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:23,679
um not necessarily like

1986
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:26,880
the i haven't really been you know quote

1987
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:28,719
unquote like ufo hunting

1988
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,639
too much um if i see something

1989
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,520
on you know a documentary about it i'll

1990
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:36,639
check it out

1991
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:38,719
but yeah i haven't really kept up with

1992
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:40,560
it other than

1993
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,320
documentaries and watching watching the

1994
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:43,920
x-files but i'm always kind of

1995
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:45,280
you know i always kind of when i go

1996
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:47,760
outside i always kind of keep

1997
01:21:52,390 --> 01:21:48,880
you know because it's interesting to

1998
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:52,400
think that like we're this tiny ball

1999
01:21:58,149 --> 01:21:56,639
in a never-ending black mass

2000
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:58,159
so i'm always kind of keeping my eyes up

2001
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,679
to the sky you know and and there could

2002
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,520
have been things that i saw that

2003
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,199
you know i could be labeled like oh yeah

2004
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,639
i've definitely seen something

2005
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:07,280
but for the most part uh unless it's

2006
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,719
like ridiculously

2007
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,960
fast moving you know because you can see

2008
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:12,560
satellites at certain times you know you

2009
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:14,480
can see shooting stars you can see

2010
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:15,520
you know there's a whole lot of stuff

2011
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:18,480
that can be easily explained um

2012
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:22,840
but i haven't found anything in my

2013
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:25,840
stargazing that had made me question

2014
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:26,400
anything

2015
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:29,440
besides that ball of flame that i saw on

2016
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,639
the 101 that day

2017
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:32,639
now and and you mentioned the tic tac

2018
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,840
earlier um

2019
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,520
you know you see something like that in

2020
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:37,840
the sky that's a that's a life-changing

2021
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:38,239
thing

2022
01:22:43,830 --> 01:22:41,760
right yeah um and then you hear

2023
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,840
the navy and the pentagon say well you

2024
01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:44,960
know we don't know what's in these

2025
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,600
videos

2026
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:47,440
you know they're unidentified aerial

2027
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:48,800
phenomenon

2028
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:51,840
um does that make you feel that the

2029
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:52,480
government

2030
01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:55,520
is is hiding something from you

2031
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,360
now i'm not sure if they would be

2032
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:59,520
particularly hiding things i'm sure that

2033
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,480
there is a brand

2034
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:02,880
if you believe anything that bob lazar

2035
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:03,920
says

2036
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:07,520
there is a branch of the government that

2037
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:09,199
that does know about this stuff but i

2038
01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:10,560
don't think through the

2039
01:23:14,709 --> 01:23:12,159
other branches of the government is

2040
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:14,719
common knowledge

2041
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:18,639
so i mean there is definitely

2042
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,639
you know i mean there's definitely a ufo

2043
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:22,560
task force

2044
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:24,719
you know i don't think that that's like

2045
01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:25,760
you know

2046
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:27,920
i don't think that's crazy to say no

2047
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:29,040
it's not

2048
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:32,560
um there has always been a ufo task

2049
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:33,440
force

2050
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:35,679
yeah right this isn't for them to say

2051
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:37,199
that they've just you know threw out

2052
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:38,880
money at this and they're starting this

2053
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,520
and

2054
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:42,239
uh come on right uh they've been looking

2055
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:44,000
at this for a long time

2056
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:47,199
um but uh you just mentioned bob lazar

2057
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:49,920
and i certainly spoke about bob in my

2058
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:51,520
opening comments

2059
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:54,639
um when you hear

2060
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,080
uh somebody like bob or bob specifically

2061
01:24:02,629 --> 01:24:00,880
uh talk about being at area 51 and

2062
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,639
seeing

2063
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:05,280
flying saucers in a hangar and backwards

2064
01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:07,120
engineering things

2065
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,040
um do you do you look at bob like

2066
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,000
this is a resource that we need to think

2067
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,320
about we need to listen to this guy

2068
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:19,360
or is there something else going on

2069
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:20,400
where maybe bob

2070
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:23,760
is you know trying to uh do this for

2071
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:24,400
fame

2072
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:27,840
or or he's got another motive behind it

2073
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:30,960
now i mean i've i've i've followed a

2074
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,679
bunch of

2075
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:34,080
you know podcasts and you know bob

2076
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:35,600
doesn't really do a lot a whole lot of

2077
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,800
interviews

2078
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:38,880
but i mean his story hasn't really

2079
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:41,199
changed very much

2080
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:44,960
in the 30 years he's been talking about

2081
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:45,280
it

2082
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:48,800
right and he stated and i'm sure that we

2083
01:24:53,669 --> 01:24:49,199
can

2084
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:53,679
financial records he's made no money

2085
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:56,800
off of uh off of any of the stuff

2086
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,679
um talking about you know s4 and area 51

2087
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:00,800
and stuff like that

2088
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:04,159
and i mean i believe him you know there

2089
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:05,679
was stuff that he had talked about in

2090
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:08,080
1985 that we didn't discover until the

2091
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:09,199
2000s

2092
01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:12,639
you know so i don't think that there's

2093
01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:16,000
any reason for him to bs anybody

2094
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:19,920
and you know i think he is a

2095
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:22,719
notable valuable source and i think if

2096
01:25:26,550 --> 01:25:25,040
the government were to

2097
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:26,560
you know because people like oh you know

2098
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:27,679
the government would probably just kill

2099
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,960
somebody like that

2100
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:31,120
i mean i think that that would look too

2101
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,159
suspicious

2102
01:25:36,070 --> 01:25:34,880
if like you know out of nowhere bob

2103
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:36,080
lazar

2104
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:39,760
is off yeah he hung himself or

2105
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,199
got no car accident or you know

2106
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,360
well that that makes him a martyr and

2107
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:47,040
everything he said was uh

2108
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:50,000
was true true exactly yeah so i don't

2109
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:50,719
think

2110
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,639
if there is a gun and i'm sure there's

2111
01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:54,239
you know because i know

2112
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:56,480
jeremy cordell who did the bob lazar

2113
01:26:00,390 --> 01:25:57,600
area 51

2114
01:26:00,950 --> 01:26:00,400
documentary um you know he had been

2115
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:00,960
raided

2116
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,080
by like the nsa it was well it was the

2117
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:06,320
local detroit police but

2118
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:08,239
uh oh was i thought it was like the fbi

2119
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:09,760
or cia yeah

2120
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:13,520
well uh possibly um but uh i don't i'm

2121
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:15,360
not gonna get into those details

2122
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:17,920
uh but that whole situation broke my

2123
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:18,719
heart is

2124
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:21,920
is what uh that ended up doing uh but

2125
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:23,920
before we get to the break

2126
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,800
uh speaking of bob lazar bob lazar

2127
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:28,880
signed a book deal with tom delong

2128
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:32,239
right now uh were you

2129
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:35,360
a blink 182 fan before

2130
01:26:43,510 --> 01:26:38,480
to the stars um

2131
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:43,520
i mean it's okay it's okay to say no

2132
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:46,880
i'm 34 years old right so when when take

2133
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:47,440
off your

2134
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:52,080
right and enema of the state came out

2135
01:26:56,870 --> 01:26:55,280
i mean i was 12 and 13. any of the

2136
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:56,880
tween parties i was going to i was

2137
01:27:01,750 --> 01:26:58,480
listening to that that's it and

2138
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:01,760
going back to those like later after

2139
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:03,199
high school they're great records

2140
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:06,320
oh great records great records hey you

2141
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,800
know what

2142
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,480
i'm going to say this about tom i've

2143
01:27:13,110 --> 01:27:10,000
said that i said this to

2144
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:13,120
tom right um uh

2145
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,490
the ability to

2146
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:16,960
[Music]

2147
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:20,400
stay punk and write power

2148
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:23,760
choruses like they did right

2149
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:26,960
to get this this pop punk

2150
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:30,719
thing uh to be so toe tappable

2151
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:32,880
uh that's that's a that's a gift from

2152
01:27:36,149 --> 01:27:33,760
god

2153
01:27:37,910 --> 01:27:36,159
to write songs like that and they're all

2154
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:37,920
amazing people like i know

2155
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:41,040
i don't know the members personally

2156
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:44,000
but i know all of their texts personally

2157
01:27:47,350 --> 01:27:45,679
you know like um

2158
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,360
you know daniel jensen the travis

2159
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:49,360
barker's tech and robert ortiz or mark

2160
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:50,560
offices tech

2161
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:53,120
and they're just the nicest dudes and

2162
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,600
the most

2163
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,360
genuine which is even more important

2164
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,199
than being nice

2165
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:59,199
are the most genuine dudes that i've met

2166
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:00,880
in or some of the most genuine dudes

2167
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:02,560
i've met in the music industry

2168
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:06,239
especially working for an act that large

2169
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:09,199
now uh before we head to the break um

2170
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:09,600
when

2171
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:13,199
tom started to to talk about this and

2172
01:28:17,910 --> 01:28:14,880
his interest in ufos

2173
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:17,920
um uh is probably really kicked into

2174
01:28:20,629 --> 01:28:19,760
high gear about five years ago four

2175
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,639
years ago

2176
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,800
did that surprise you because he's been

2177
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:24,400
writing songs

2178
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:28,000
ten years now the way that

2179
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:30,639
he had the way that it had kind of

2180
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:31,679
affected

2181
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:35,120
the business i was kind of like ah dude

2182
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:37,040
but it's like if if you believe in

2183
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,159
something that much

2184
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:40,639
that you would be willing to lose your

2185
01:28:44,070 --> 01:28:41,199
stake

2186
01:28:45,830 --> 01:28:44,080
in a multi-million dollar brand which

2187
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:45,840
was blink 182

2188
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:48,719
then you know that's obviously more your

2189
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:49,440
calling

2190
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,400
than the band itself do you think that

2191
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:53,760
walking away was

2192
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,040
was that kind of statement yeah i mean

2193
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,040
definitely i think that he was like you

2194
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:01,600
know what this is what i want to do

2195
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:04,480
i don't like um i'll play music if i

2196
01:29:08,070 --> 01:29:05,520
want to

2197
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:08,080
but i mean he's in a financial position

2198
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,520
to basically

2199
01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,840
do whatever he wants i mean i'm sure he

2200
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:13,679
still gets residuals for those

2201
01:29:17,830 --> 01:29:16,880
four or five plat multi platinum selling

2202
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:17,840
records i mean

2203
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:19,520
you know he ain't hurting he ain't down

2204
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,960
at the food bank you know what i mean

2205
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:23,440
no no not at all let's take our break

2206
01:29:26,470 --> 01:29:24,159
right here

2207
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:26,480
our guest tonight kyle coghill of bad

2208
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,199
wolves

2209
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:29,440
and uh we're gonna continue all of this

2210
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:32,480
conspiracies ufos bigfoot

2211
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:35,360
and music the rock and roll when we come

2212
01:29:43,850 --> 01:29:56,709
[Music]

2213
01:30:02,950 --> 01:29:59,830
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2214
01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:02,960
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2215
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:04,800
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01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:06,880
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2217
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,870
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2218
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:28,880
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2219
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:30,960
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2220
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:32,480
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2282
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:09,840
jimmy church

2283
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,960
this is revolution the revolution will

2284
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:14,320
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2285
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2286
01:33:56,470 --> 01:34:00,629
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2287
01:34:03,750 --> 01:34:02,149
welcome back paid to black i'm yours

2288
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:03,760
jimmy church our guest tonight kyle

2289
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:04,719
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2290
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:08,400
bad wolves and we're doing a little bit

2291
01:34:10,149 --> 01:34:08,719
of

2292
01:34:11,990 --> 01:34:10,159
everything tonight we're talking some

2293
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:12,000
music conspiracy

2294
01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:16,800
ufos and

2295
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:19,840
i want to stay on this subject of uh

2296
01:34:25,030 --> 01:34:22,960
of of tom delong for a second and

2297
01:34:26,070 --> 01:34:25,040
you know here he is a musician you know

2298
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:26,080
blink 182

2299
01:34:41,430 --> 01:34:33,189
but he uh nearly

2300
01:34:45,430 --> 01:34:44,550
tucker carlson and and fox uh the

2301
01:34:48,709 --> 01:34:45,440
president's

2302
01:34:52,390 --> 01:34:48,719
uh the senate it's all over media

2303
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:52,400
now were you surprised to see

2304
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:56,639
the world embrace this and not freak out

2305
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:58,639
i wouldn't say i was so much surprised

2306
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:00,000
as i was like all right

2307
01:35:05,830 --> 01:35:03,520
well maybe the human race isn't

2308
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:05,840
you know maybe we are ready for

2309
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:06,719
something like this

2310
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:08,560
especially when he was getting notable

2311
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:11,440
people to back his company as well

2312
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:13,280
i don't remember exactly there was

2313
01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:14,880
someone from like the navy

2314
01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:18,239
or nasa or somebody was like working

2315
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:21,679
for his company right right and uh you

2316
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:22,000
know

2317
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:26,239
the the stories from the past

2318
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:28,000
uh whether it was from you know the

2319
01:35:33,189 --> 01:35:29,440
pentagon directly

2320
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:33,199
or uh politicians uh corporate heads

2321
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:34,080
thinkers

2322
01:35:39,189 --> 01:35:37,280
um philosophers the vatican

2323
01:35:41,189 --> 01:35:39,199
that the world wasn't ready for it and

2324
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:41,199
if they found out that

2325
01:35:45,910 --> 01:35:44,400
aliens are visiting this planet uh

2326
01:35:48,070 --> 01:35:45,920
all hell's gonna break loose right

2327
01:35:49,990 --> 01:35:48,080
there's gonna be anarchy there's

2328
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:50,000
everything's gonna crash religions the

2329
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:51,360
stock market

2330
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,960
uh it's gonna be crazy town and yeah and

2331
01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:56,639
that certainly didn't happen when

2332
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:58,239
when the new york times started to break

2333
01:36:02,310 --> 01:35:59,760
this story

2334
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:02,320
no and i think like especially this year

2335
01:36:06,870 --> 01:36:03,600
because there was some more

2336
01:36:08,470 --> 01:36:06,880
more and more ufo stuff breaking into

2337
01:36:11,590 --> 01:36:08,480
the mainstream media

2338
01:36:13,830 --> 01:36:11,600
and it was almost like most people

2339
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:13,840
didn't seem to care

2340
01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:16,960
really or maybe they thought it was bs

2341
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:20,239
or or what have you but

2342
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,600
i mean it's it's like you know what

2343
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:24,000
tommy lee jones said in men in black

2344
01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:25,600
to will smith when he was going to make

2345
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:27,119
him an agent you know

2346
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people like the person is smart

2347
01:36:32,390 --> 01:36:30,800
intelligent and knows how to handle

2348
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things but people

2349
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are stupid and and you know scared

2350
01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:39,119
so yeah obviously that was a verbatim

2351
01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:40,560
but

2352
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,719
i mean i don't know it's cool to see

2353
01:36:48,070 --> 01:36:46,960
this stuff popping up in mainstream

2354
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:48,080
media

2355
01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:52,880
and you know going back to the um

2356
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:55,760
conspiracy kind of surge that we've had

2357
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:56,560
this year

2358
01:37:00,709 --> 01:36:58,560
i can understand that maybe some people

2359
01:37:04,550 --> 01:37:00,719
are just like ah this is just more

2360
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:04,560
malarkey or whatever you know so

2361
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,600
i enjoy it and i try you know like i

2362
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:09,360
said i try to do research as much as

2363
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:11,440
as much as possible when it comes to

2364
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:12,480
what sites are

2365
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:15,840
producing certain articles

2366
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:19,360
but you know that's just me

2367
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:24,000
yeah what do you think uh ultimately

2368
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:28,000
uh in 2021 if this continues on the path

2369
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:28,960
that it is

2370
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:31,840
right this movement towards disclosure

2371
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:33,199
disclosure means so many different

2372
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:34,080
things

2373
01:37:40,550 --> 01:37:37,440
but but certainly in the ufo community

2374
01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:40,560
disclosure is uh the president

2375
01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:42,800
you know speaking on live television we

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are not alone

2377
01:37:50,790 --> 01:37:48,400
right independence day um do you think

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01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:50,800
that that's a possibility for 2021 do

2379
01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:53,280
you think that this is going to continue

2380
01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:55,520
uh to move in that direction now that

2381
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,719
conspiracy is

2382
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,360
is completely out of the closet now and

2383
01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:01,280
and in the mainstream

2384
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,199
well so i'm going to say something that

2385
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:05,040
maybe not a lot of people agree with

2386
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,760
here

2387
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:08,560
but i really don't think that the

2388
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:10,960
president

2389
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,239
in any form really knows what's going on

2390
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,800
with the the ufo task force why do you

2391
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:18,000
say that

2392
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:20,719
i mean i know you don't talk politics

2393
01:38:23,910 --> 01:38:21,520
here

2394
01:38:25,109 --> 01:38:23,920
but just look at the last four years yo

2395
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:25,119
if there was aliens

2396
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:26,800
donald trump would have been tweeting

2397
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:29,760
about that i really think he would have

2398
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:31,690
i i've said that many times

2399
01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:33,440
[Laughter]

2400
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:35,679
like that guy that guy can't keep his

2401
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:37,040
mouth shut about anything

2402
01:38:40,629 --> 01:38:39,040
right right so you really think that he

2403
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:40,639
would hold in he'll be like no

2404
01:38:44,340 --> 01:38:43,679
like listen there's aliens i've seen the

2405
01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:44,350
paperwork

2406
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:46,400
[Laughter]

2407
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:47,920
i've seen the documents i've seen the

2408
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:49,440
footage it's the best footage of any

2409
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:51,679
alien you've ever seen

2410
01:38:58,149 --> 01:38:55,440
well done um and

2411
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:58,159
there is uh we don't do politics but

2412
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:59,360
there is

2413
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:00,639
uh the elephant in the room right

2414
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:03,119
there's 50 days left um

2415
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:06,320
in in trump's administration allegedly

2416
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:07,920
we'll see what happens december december

2417
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:10,000
14th when the electoral college

2418
01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:12,480
um all those votes are counted you know

2419
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:13,520
yeah right

2420
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:16,400
do you think uh uh if donald knows

2421
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:17,119
something that

2422
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:20,080
he would let loose maybe and and just

2423
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:21,520
throw caution to the wind

2424
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:25,040
and and maybe tweet something about ufos

2425
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:27,360
i mean i don't know what his daily

2426
01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:28,239
vitamin

2427
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:32,159
cocktail is but he has always been kind

2428
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:33,199
of

2429
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:35,520
um and this is and this is all politics

2430
01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:36,480
aside

2431
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:38,840
um he's always been kind of a manic

2432
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:40,480
tweeter

2433
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:43,280
i i really think if he knew like

2434
01:39:46,149 --> 01:39:44,400
december 14th

2435
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:46,159
we'll all know what it is we're not

2436
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:47,600
going to get into any of that

2437
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:51,119
um but i think december 15th

2438
01:39:54,790 --> 01:39:53,920
if it turns out that you know the new

2439
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:54,800
president-elect

2440
01:40:01,910 --> 01:39:58,400
is joe biden you know he might

2441
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:04,870
uh i'm not really sure i would think

2442
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:05,840
probably

2443
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:08,080
just because of all the stuff that we've

2444
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,760
all seen over the last four years that

2445
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:11,199
he might just go out

2446
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:14,239
use that that at potus on twitter

2447
01:40:18,149 --> 01:40:16,560
just one last time and get real cray

2448
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:18,159
with it you know yeah yeah

2449
01:40:26,709 --> 01:40:23,600
let biden deal with this

2450
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:26,719
that would be hilarious yes

2451
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:29,600
yes and and sad at the same time and

2452
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:30,080
cool

2453
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,480
at the same time you know that i mean

2454
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:34,080
you know if he like if he waits until

2455
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:35,280
like you know december

2456
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:38,239
13th 14th where they're like listen don

2457
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:39,119
i'm sorry you're not gonna be the

2458
01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:40,480
president anymore

2459
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,960
uh and he's just like just starts going

2460
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:45,360
on an all-out rampage on twitter

2461
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,679
and starts revealing government secrets

2462
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:49,440
at 2am

2463
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:53,040
yeah yeah 2 a.m for the oval office um

2464
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:55,760
uh yeah string of tweets i could see it

2465
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:56,880
happening

2466
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,400
and and this is uh um

2467
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:02,880
this is the thing that when we talk

2468
01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:04,880
about conspiracy theory

2469
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:07,840
um which i enjoy uh and i enjoy the

2470
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:08,400
research

2471
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:11,600
i keep myself sane i know that you heard

2472
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:13,920
uh my opening statements i keep myself

2473
01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:14,800
sane by not

2474
01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:18,159
going all in i just i just don't do it

2475
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:21,119
yeah same you have to operate that way

2476
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:21,760
um

2477
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:26,080
but the the last four years i had

2478
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:35,350
it's like this the disclosure movement

2479
01:41:42,310 --> 01:41:39,280
wants and believes and just prays

2480
01:41:44,070 --> 01:41:42,320
and hopes for the day that this is all

2481
01:41:46,149 --> 01:41:44,080
openly discussed in the senate in

2482
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:46,159
congress uh from the oval

2483
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:49,440
office uh from the pentagon the military

2484
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:51,199
let's just get this all out there

2485
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:53,280
because they have lives invested

2486
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:56,400
right 30 years 40 years into the subject

2487
01:42:00,550 --> 01:41:59,040
of of ridicule and tinfoil hats and

2488
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:00,560
we're the crazy ones

2489
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:03,199
where finally they can get some relief

2490
01:42:06,070 --> 01:42:04,239
in the pressure

2491
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:06,080
right and have this stuff discussed out

2492
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:08,480
in the open i said the opposite

2493
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:11,520
i don't really know if that's what we

2494
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:14,320
want out of washington uh whether it's

2495
01:42:19,830 --> 01:42:16,080
the white house or the pentagon

2496
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:19,840
do we really want this stuff openly

2497
01:42:28,629 --> 01:42:23,440
discussed i'm not so sure because

2498
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:28,639
i believe that there are uh

2499
01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:31,199
people in the pentagon in the military

2500
01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:33,520
in the military industrial complex

2501
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:35,360
that believe in conspiracies just like

2502
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:36,960
we do right of course

2503
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:39,280
right well no i know somebody works for

2504
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:40,840
the dod

2505
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:43,440
and he there there are certain things

2506
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:44,320
that he believes in

2507
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,400
that are you know working for the

2508
01:42:50,210 --> 01:42:48,000
department of defense you probably

2509
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,220
shouldn't

2510
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:52,560
[Laughter]

2511
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:54,080
you guys can't see it but kyle's

2512
01:42:58,229 --> 01:42:55,840
laughing uh

2513
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:58,239
as he says but that's exactly my point

2514
01:43:02,470 --> 01:42:59,199
right yeah

2515
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,480
yeah these are uh

2516
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,880
these are the people that are in control

2517
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:05,920
of

2518
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:09,360
our defenses right nuclear missiles

2519
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:12,480
yeah fleets of jets do we

2520
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:16,560
is that a zone where we need to go into

2521
01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:19,040
i'm not so sure no and then we're going

2522
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,840
to be voting

2523
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,840
on you know each state's going to be

2524
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:23,440
voting on all right who's going to send

2525
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,679
the nuke up to that spaceship

2526
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:28,080
this year you know what i mean like i

2527
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:28,800
don't know

2528
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:31,600
like i'm cool with it being how it is

2529
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,800
kind of like low-key

2530
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:34,800
underground and honestly i'll take i'll

2531
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:38,320
take an old-school tinfoil hat over

2532
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:41,679
any of the new school tinfoil hats

2533
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:44,560
any day you know what i mean i do i do

2534
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:45,679
i'm right there with you

2535
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:48,480
i i like uh i like our conspiracies kept

2536
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:49,360
to us

2537
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:52,400
but and i'll tell you why we

2538
01:43:57,189 --> 01:43:55,440
in the conspiracy theory community know

2539
01:44:02,070 --> 01:43:57,199
how to deal with it

2540
01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:02,080
we've been dealing with it forever

2541
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:05,119
and i'm i'm just not so sure you know

2542
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:06,080
you got to be careful

2543
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:10,320
what you wish for what do you make of uh

2544
01:44:13,510 --> 01:44:12,080
the conversations that have been going

2545
01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:13,520
around lately

2546
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,440
about uh a fake alien invasion

2547
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:19,760
oh i've not heard about that oh you

2548
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:20,639
haven't

2549
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:23,600
no okay well let me throw this out there

2550
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:24,639
at you

2551
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,400
throw it at me there is uh

2552
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:30,320
a pretty solid conspiracy theory it's

2553
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,600
been going around for

2554
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:33,520
a couple of decades called project

2555
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:35,199
bluebeam

2556
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:43,280
stay with me on this kyle uh uh

2557
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:46,320
a holographic image projected in the sky

2558
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:48,719
you can do with it what you want right

2559
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:50,159
and there i did it with tupac

2560
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:53,040
uh did it would do did it with uh dio

2561
01:44:57,189 --> 01:44:54,000
right yeah

2562
01:45:01,510 --> 01:44:57,199
yeah so um uh in the

2563
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:01,520
original uh uh uh desert storm

2564
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:04,800
like uh images of

2565
01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:08,239
uh allah in the sky

2566
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,639
right project and freaking out the iraqi

2567
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:11,840
soldiers

2568
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:14,560
right and using that kind of technology

2569
01:45:22,149 --> 01:45:15,440
um

2570
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:22,159
holographic images are reality today

2571
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:26,080
um but to fake an alien invasion

2572
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:29,440
to unite the world right project

2573
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:32,320
uh independence day over los angeles and

2574
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:33,600
moscow

2575
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:36,880
and and london and and have these crafts

2576
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:37,920
up there

2577
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:42,080
uh do you the reason why would this

2578
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:44,560
would this go along with the you know

2579
01:45:48,470 --> 01:45:46,560
the conspiracy of the new world order

2580
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,480
yeah but that's exactly it and that's

2581
01:45:51,910 --> 01:45:50,639
how that would be the first stage

2582
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:51,920
that was so that would be the first

2583
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:53,920
stage of uniting all of like

2584
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:56,000
our continent which would be canada

2585
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,080
north america mexico south america

2586
01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:00,000
to where we would have like one currency

2587
01:46:04,870 --> 01:46:02,320
kind of like how europe is the amero

2588
01:46:05,830 --> 01:46:04,880
and kind of just make it one thing

2589
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:05,840
instead of

2590
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:07,360
four separate things or multiple

2591
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:08,239
different things because they're all

2592
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:08,960
different countries

2593
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:12,480
mexico and south america and stuff um

2594
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:16,960
i mean i really think that if they were

2595
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:18,480
going to

2596
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:21,520
fake an alien invasion i really think

2597
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:24,880
like yo a virus

2598
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:26,320
and everybody bought all the toilet

2599
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:28,320
paper right if if mf

2600
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:32,159
starts seeing alien battles in the sky

2601
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:35,760
like that

2602
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:38,840
that will not be good we saw how people

2603
01:46:42,790 --> 01:46:40,480
handled

2604
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,800
a virus in the beginning when they're

2605
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:44,800
like all right we're gonna lock down

2606
01:46:48,310 --> 01:46:46,880
all the canned food was gone you

2607
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:48,320
couldn't buy a gun

2608
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:52,159
for four months you still can't buy ammo

2609
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:55,520
not in los angeles no not in los

2610
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:59,040
angeles i mean i really think that that

2611
01:47:02,310 --> 01:46:59,520
would do

2612
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:02,320
a lot more harm than good and there will

2613
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:03,600
be

2614
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:07,360
many many many casualties brought on by

2615
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:09,679
a holographic image

2616
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:12,560
um i'm not too sure like that's

2617
01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:18,310
i don't know and and i think that this

2618
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:21,199
is uh the point

2619
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,159
where i start to think about the

2620
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:27,040
suggestions of a fake alien invasion

2621
01:47:31,990 --> 01:47:29,840
and the tic tac videos suddenly the

2622
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:32,000
pentagon and the senate are talking

2623
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:36,159
ufos that is there

2624
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:39,199
is there a chance that

2625
01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:42,239
the government knows that something is

2626
01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:45,440
about to happen that they know somebody

2627
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:46,719
is on their way to earth

2628
01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:49,600
something that is out of their control

2629
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:50,560
well i mean if you

2630
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:53,199
if you it i think it really depends on

2631
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:54,480
there are multiple different ways you

2632
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:55,920
can look at this

2633
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,560
there can be the the task force that

2634
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:00,800
maybe they've already come into contact

2635
01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:04,400
right right another another species um

2636
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:07,280
there's the you know the breakaway

2637
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,960
civilization theory

2638
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:11,440
that you know humans from hundreds of

2639
01:48:15,270 --> 01:48:13,520
thousands of years ago broke away

2640
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:15,280
flew into space because they were just

2641
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:16,880
as technologically advanced as we were

2642
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:18,080
if not more

2643
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:20,320
and have come back in trying times to

2644
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:21,199
try to help us

2645
01:48:29,109 --> 01:48:28,149
i don't i'm not i'm not too sure i mean

2646
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:29,119
i think

2647
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,199
if something was going to happen we

2648
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:35,119
and anybody affiliated with the

2649
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:36,639
government i don't think that they would

2650
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:37,679
know i don't think it's good i don't

2651
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:38,960
think it would be like a movie where

2652
01:48:41,350 --> 01:48:39,679
it's just like

2653
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:41,360
you have one hour to give us what we

2654
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:42,880
want or we're going to destroy your

2655
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:43,520
planet

2656
01:48:46,229 --> 01:48:44,880
i think if they wanted to come in and

2657
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:46,239
destroy the planet they would have

2658
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:46,880
already

2659
01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:49,040
yeah they would have taken it over or

2660
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,040
maybe that's exactly what

2661
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:53,119
happened and that's why we're living in

2662
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:54,080
a simulation

2663
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:56,000
you know what i mean like it could be

2664
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:57,920
that too and we're you know it's kind of

2665
01:49:02,149 --> 01:49:00,080
like the matrix like we're powering

2666
01:49:03,109 --> 01:49:02,159
the world that the aliens have taken

2667
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:03,119
over

2668
01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:05,679
and and we have uh we're going to go

2669
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,000
right back to that thought

2670
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:10,560
let's table that for a second um in the

2671
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:11,119
media

2672
01:49:16,310 --> 01:49:14,159
it's not just ufos right we have

2673
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:16,320
fast radio bursts right that we're

2674
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:17,280
detecting

2675
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:21,040
uh uh new exoplanets every single day

2676
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:24,400
we've got asteroid flybys we've got

2677
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:28,239
all of the suggestion uh about uh

2678
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,760
what is going on out there in the

2679
01:49:33,189 --> 01:49:31,280
universe and it has been

2680
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,199
constant uh over the last couple of

2681
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:35,840
years this has been spoon fed out

2682
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:39,920
into the public um is it to acclimate us

2683
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:43,520
uh to uh alien contact

2684
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:46,639
i mean i think you know

2685
01:49:50,470 --> 01:49:49,280
the way to do it would be to drip feed

2686
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:50,480
everybody

2687
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:52,560
small bits of information here are there

2688
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:54,000
and then like

2689
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,719
you know you saw how people reacted to

2690
01:50:00,229 --> 01:49:58,239
um

2691
01:50:01,350 --> 01:50:00,239
you know any major ufo news this year it

2692
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:01,360
was kind of just like you know unless

2693
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:02,560
you're really into it

2694
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,719
it was kind of just like meh so the drip

2695
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:06,480
feeds you little bits and bits and bits

2696
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:08,480
drop something big see what the reaction

2697
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,800
is oh no one's panicking no one's doing

2698
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:12,560
drip drip drip something and then you

2699
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,840
know who knows

2700
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,520
next year we could get something much

2701
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,280
bigger and then we can

2702
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,719
they can gauge the reaction of the

2703
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:20,320
people from that and

2704
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:23,040
i mean it definitely seems plausible

2705
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:24,159
that they're just kind of

2706
01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:27,280
you know just giving us the dripper and

2707
01:50:33,750 --> 01:50:31,520
uh or we haven't had contact you know

2708
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,760
it's one of those things you know but i

2709
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:35,199
think if there was going to be

2710
01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:39,599
a detrimental um alien attack

2711
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:41,679
uh it would have happened or we would

2712
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:43,440
never actually know about it

2713
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:46,560
now okay so let's go back to those uh

2714
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:49,280
those videos those three videos uh what

2715
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:50,400
was your reaction

2716
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:54,159
when you first saw them did you see ufos

2717
01:51:01,270 --> 01:50:57,679
or did you not what the tic tac video

2718
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:01,280
yes i mean i've never seen

2719
01:51:06,629 --> 01:51:04,480
anything move like that

2720
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:06,639
i mean you're going from like just above

2721
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:07,760
sea level

2722
01:51:11,910 --> 01:51:10,480
to where fighter jets are flying within

2723
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:11,920
seconds

2724
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:13,599
you know campy it wasn't picked up by

2725
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:15,440
any of the radar

2726
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,840
i mean it was but the movements weren't

2727
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,679
right it was moving so fast that in the

2728
01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:20,880
time that it takes

2729
01:51:24,229 --> 01:51:22,639
the radar to spin all the way around it

2730
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:24,239
couldn't pick up

2731
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:28,639
its movements from there and i mean

2732
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:30,400
it looks funny it might not be what we

2733
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:32,719
think an alien spacecraft

2734
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:35,440
looks like but it could it could have

2735
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:36,320
been

2736
01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:39,119
a type of reconnaissance ship it doesn't

2737
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:40,000
have to be

2738
01:51:45,990 --> 01:51:44,159
a big battle alien ship because you know

2739
01:51:47,910 --> 01:51:46,000
people can see those i mean unless you

2740
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:47,920
know you go based on the fact that they

2741
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:49,520
have camouflaging

2742
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:53,119
um techniques and and what have you

2743
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:55,679
but if they were just coming down to

2744
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:57,520
look at stuff

2745
01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:59,040
i mean i don't think you'd have to bring

2746
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:01,360
a big ship no look what

2747
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:02,800
you see and that's that's one of the

2748
01:52:06,229 --> 01:52:04,800
best points it could and it might not

2749
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,239
even have been manned

2750
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,320
we have drones that could have been a

2751
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:10,639
space drone we're flying stuff to mars

2752
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:13,040
and jupiter and saturn all the time

2753
01:52:17,830 --> 01:52:16,000
right uh probes and landing stuff and

2754
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,840
checking out the planet

2755
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:19,920
certainly that would be the best and

2756
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:22,159
most efficient way for et to be checking

2757
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:23,119
out earth

2758
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,360
it doesn't have to be piloted by little

2759
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,520
green men necessarily does it

2760
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:28,960
no it could be it could have been a

2761
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:31,280
reconnaissance drone

2762
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:33,599
and i mean it the way it moves moved

2763
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:34,719
similarly

2764
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:37,920
to how our drones move up and down left

2765
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:38,800
and right

2766
01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:42,480
you know it didn't move like a spaceship

2767
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:45,840
or like an aircraft would you be okay if

2768
01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:49,679
uh it was revealed that it was

2769
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:52,000
our technology not necessarily the

2770
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:52,880
united states

2771
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:55,920
could have been being tested on our

2772
01:53:01,589 --> 01:52:59,119
own uh navy maybe

2773
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:01,599
would you be surprised if it was the

2774
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:03,599
russians or the chinese

2775
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:06,800
invading our airspace uh

2776
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:08,960
that would be definitely concerning

2777
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:09,920
because

2778
01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:12,000
you know with russia and china i know

2779
01:53:15,589 --> 01:53:13,520
we're not in the best of standings you

2780
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:15,599
know they're not our allies

2781
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:18,800
um but i think if it if it came to find

2782
01:53:23,189 --> 01:53:19,440
out

2783
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:23,199
that those tic tacs were russian

2784
01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:25,199
china any other country that was

2785
01:53:29,109 --> 01:53:26,880
invading our airspace

2786
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:29,119
to see if they could fool our navy into

2787
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,560
thinking that it was something else

2788
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:32,080
i mean i mean you might as well just

2789
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:33,520
sign that world war three document right

2790
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:33,840
there

2791
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:38,239
yeah that's right would that be scarier

2792
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:42,159
than ufos right nuclear holocaust scares

2793
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,040
me more

2794
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:46,239
than ufos yeah that's exactly the point

2795
01:53:51,350 --> 01:53:49,840
you know uh i i i if if it came to that

2796
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:51,360
i wanted to be alien

2797
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:54,000
and i still do i mean i really do i'm

2798
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:56,000
just not so sure

2799
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:59,199
what my eyes are seeing um what i do

2800
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:01,040
find interesting here

2801
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:04,080
is that there seems to be or

2802
01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:07,199
was a certain amount of cooperation

2803
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,840
between the pentagon and and tom delong

2804
01:54:14,149 --> 01:54:11,199
in his company

2805
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:14,159
and and why do it and why do it now do

2806
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:16,880
you ever ask yourself that question

2807
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:20,400
um not really just because there's

2808
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:22,880
always been kind of like

2809
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:25,280
there's always been those kind of

2810
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:26,639
throughout the years

2811
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:28,320
you know every now and again you'll hear

2812
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:29,760
something like oh there was the you know

2813
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,560
the like

2814
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:32,159
like the phoenix lights you know that

2815
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:33,840
was kind of a kind of a big news story

2816
01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:34,960
that wasn't really

2817
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:38,960
shoved under the under the carpet um

2818
01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:42,080
i mean i don't know and i mean all the

2819
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:43,119
testimonies from

2820
01:54:47,189 --> 01:54:45,920
the pilots that saw the tic tac like i

2821
01:54:51,270 --> 01:54:47,199
think his name is lieutenant

2822
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,280
faber yeah fravor fravor i'm sorry yeah

2823
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,000
dave fravor i mean that's a guy who's

2824
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:55,840
been in the military a long time those

2825
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:57,760
guys get psyche valves those guys get

2826
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:58,560
tests

2827
01:55:01,589 --> 01:55:00,639
all the time especially being a pilot

2828
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:01,599
you know what i mean

2829
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:05,040
landing on an aircraft carrier exactly

2830
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,159
yes like yo right so i mean

2831
01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:10,880
i kind of just take it i take it at more

2832
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,880
than face value but i kind of

2833
01:55:16,070 --> 01:55:15,520
i kind of file it into the documents of

2834
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:16,080
like

2835
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,239
lieutenant fravor you know what i mean

2836
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:27,430
i don't know now you're from the valley

2837
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:28,000
yeah yeah

2838
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:29,760
uh we're born and raised in birmingham

2839
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:31,040
born and raised in burbank

2840
01:55:35,030 --> 01:55:33,199
same hospital that our daughters were

2841
01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:35,040
was born at saint joe right across the

2842
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:36,239
street from johnny carson you know what

2843
01:55:38,470 --> 01:55:36,639
i mean

2844
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,480
that is you know what that is one of the

2845
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:40,159
trippiest things um

2846
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:43,280
when you look at saint joe and then you

2847
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,960
look across the street at the tonight

2848
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:46,400
show right

2849
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,440
buena vista and alameda man

2850
01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:51,520
so but did you know that bob lazar is

2851
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:53,760
from the valley

2852
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:56,400
um after i had you know i'd watched the

2853
01:56:00,870 --> 01:55:58,239
documentary i kind of i

2854
01:56:01,990 --> 01:56:00,880
i kind of figured out that he was from

2855
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:02,000
from the valley

2856
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:05,119
went to pierce college oh man that's

2857
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:07,360
literally the valley that is the actual

2858
01:56:12,870 --> 01:56:09,840
valley that is the actual valley

2859
01:56:15,910 --> 01:56:12,880
um uh before we uh

2860
01:56:19,270 --> 01:56:15,920
head to a break right here um and

2861
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:19,280
and and staying on this with uh with

2862
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:22,080
everything uh when you're talking about

2863
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:23,199
you know pilots

2864
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:26,400
uh going on the record uh these these

2865
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:27,199
videos

2866
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:30,560
uh going out into the public it seems

2867
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:31,440
that

2868
01:56:38,149 --> 01:56:35,840
fravor got a gotta go pass

2869
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:38,159
right he got a hall pass to talk about

2870
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:38,960
this

2871
01:56:44,550 --> 01:56:42,480
he did and maybe it's just because

2872
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,560
you know the ufo task force or

2873
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:45,840
whomever's in charge

2874
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:48,960
of you know the aliens um

2875
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:51,440
was just like you know what let's just

2876
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:53,840
see what happens

2877
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:56,320
let's see how people react to it and are

2878
01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:57,760
the people ready for it

2879
01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:01,520
right because uh tucker carlson

2880
01:57:04,950 --> 01:57:03,520
uh and i've got to give him a lot of

2881
01:57:08,870 --> 01:57:04,960
credit for this

2882
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:08,880
um took it upon himself to speak about

2883
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:09,440
this

2884
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:12,080
on the biggest you know nightly news

2885
01:57:15,669 --> 01:57:12,719
show

2886
01:57:16,229 --> 01:57:15,679
in the world right yeah and to take it

2887
01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:16,239
on there

2888
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:19,520
and knowing that he's going to face

2889
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:23,119
from from his peers that ufo ridicule

2890
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:24,400
you know you don't that's the one thing

2891
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:25,679
you don't talk about

2892
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:28,080
right you don't do that but he chose to

2893
01:57:32,470 --> 01:57:30,159
do that and there wasn't

2894
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,480
the backlash that i think most people

2895
01:57:38,070 --> 01:57:34,639
expected

2896
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,080
well so when did tucker carlson do this

2897
01:57:42,870 --> 01:57:40,560
uh two years here yeah three three years

2898
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:42,880
ago when the new york times uh broke the

2899
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:43,920
story

2900
01:57:47,189 --> 01:57:46,159
uh he decided at that point to run with

2901
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:47,199
it

2902
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:50,400
oh okay and he's on fox news right yes

2903
01:58:01,669 --> 01:57:58,790
for now um

2904
01:58:02,709 --> 01:58:01,679
why i like look listen like we we all

2905
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:02,719
kind of know

2906
01:58:09,109 --> 01:58:06,000
like i'm glad he ran with it and but

2907
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:09,119
i know there are so many people who

2908
01:58:14,229 --> 01:58:12,239
just believe that anything that comes

2909
01:58:17,350 --> 01:58:14,239
from fox news

2910
01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:17,360
is bs or any mainstream

2911
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:19,440
or any mainstream but i know that there

2912
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:21,280
is a large group of people who are just

2913
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:22,880
like nah turn off fox news you know what

2914
01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:23,280
i mean

2915
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:27,360
my entire life

2916
01:58:32,149 --> 01:58:30,159
you know um and seeing posters around

2917
01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:32,159
burbank you know there's a sign

2918
01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:33,760
when you're on magnolia that says like

2919
01:58:39,109 --> 01:58:36,800
turn off fox news yes

2920
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:39,119
uh when i was uh when i was going to

2921
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:41,280
school i got about 60 seconds

2922
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:44,320
uh for broadcasting and uh

2923
01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:48,080
one of our uh instructors was from cnn

2924
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:52,239
and uh so i said to him i said hey

2925
01:58:56,070 --> 01:58:55,760
you got a story a ufo story this is like

2926
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:56,080
10

2927
01:59:00,149 --> 01:58:58,960
15 years ago i said you got a ufo story

2928
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,159
and you take it to

2929
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:02,639
your news director he goes no i wouldn't

2930
01:59:05,669 --> 01:59:04,480
i said yeah but you got this ufo sir he

2931
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:05,679
goes no man

2932
01:59:11,669 --> 01:59:09,360
no ufos no ufos you just don't do it if

2933
01:59:15,430 --> 01:59:11,679
you want to have a career in journalism

2934
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:15,440
and i was just blown away by that and he

2935
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:18,880
shut me down and i can't believe george

2936
01:59:23,750 --> 01:59:20,560
nori made a career out of it so

2937
01:59:27,109 --> 01:59:23,760
well yeah yeah um there

2938
01:59:30,629 --> 01:59:27,119
uh there is uh there

2939
01:59:33,310 --> 01:59:30,639
is this uh unspoken

2940
01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:33,320
rule and i've heard all of the top

2941
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:34,480
broadcasters

2942
01:59:38,790 --> 01:59:37,280
uh speak about this if you want to kill

2943
01:59:42,550 --> 01:59:38,800
your career

2944
01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:42,560
in radio or television talk about ufos

2945
01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:45,440
you know and it's it's i'm not the only

2946
01:59:48,709 --> 01:59:46,080
one that

2947
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:48,719
has said this right it's just out there

2948
01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:49,199
and

2949
01:59:59,030 --> 01:59:57,920
not since larry king has there been

2950
02:00:02,390 --> 01:59:59,040
somebody mainstream

2951
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:02,400
there's myself right out there on coast

2952
02:00:09,030 --> 02:00:05,920
the uh there's a george nori

2953
02:00:11,430 --> 02:00:09,040
and that's it right it's it's

2954
02:00:13,910 --> 02:00:11,440
it and and i don't care anymore you know

2955
02:00:14,550 --> 02:00:13,920
and i let that go a long time ago kyle i

2956
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:14,560
just

2957
02:00:19,750 --> 02:00:17,920
i i let it go and i decided that the the

2958
02:00:21,830 --> 02:00:19,760
ufo community

2959
02:00:23,030 --> 02:00:21,840
needed to have somebody out there in the

2960
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:23,040
mainstream

2961
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:25,119
that would absolutely speak about these

2962
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:26,960
things you know i've seen

2963
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:30,000
stuff i've seen stuff and i know how

2964
02:00:34,470 --> 02:00:31,679
crazy it makes me sound

2965
02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:34,480
but that's it and i just i decided a

2966
02:00:37,270 --> 02:00:35,599
long time ago

2967
02:00:38,950 --> 02:00:37,280
to do that now when we come back we're

2968
02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:38,960
going to take our break right here

2969
02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:40,400
and when we come back we're going to

2970
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:42,719
talk about bigfoot got to do it

2971
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:45,119
and you and i are on the same page but i

2972
02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:46,159
want to push this

2973
02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:48,480
just a little bit our guest tonight kyle

2974
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:50,080
coghill of bad wolves

2975
02:00:59,030 --> 02:00:51,360
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3050
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3099
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right there all right our guest tonight

3132
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:36,800
uh kyle conkel

3133
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:38,320
and and kyle i want to talk about

3134
02:07:44,790 --> 02:07:40,079
bigfoot for a second

3135
02:07:48,069 --> 02:07:44,800
um what do you think

3136
02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:48,079
now when i was growing up i was like

3137
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:50,639
oh yeah i mean you know i grew up

3138
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:52,719
watching like harry and the hendersons

3139
02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:53,440
and you know

3140
02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:57,040
the you know the the legendary bigfoot

3141
02:08:02,790 --> 02:08:00,320
footage that was you know shown um

3142
02:08:03,589 --> 02:08:02,800
and my stepdad was really into it and he

3143
02:08:06,149 --> 02:08:03,599
was like

3144
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:06,159
yo there's bigfoot out there but as i've

3145
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:08,000
gotten older

3146
02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:09,599
i really don't think that there is

3147
02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:11,760
something living

3148
02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:14,320
in the pacific northwest or british

3149
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:15,280
columbia

3150
02:08:19,109 --> 02:08:18,560
that i mean maybe canada maybe because i

3151
02:08:21,350 --> 02:08:19,119
mean

3152
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:21,360
there's only like a hundred miles from

3153
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:22,719
the american border

3154
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:25,679
up in canada that's inhabitable so it

3155
02:08:28,470 --> 02:08:27,119
would make sense if it was up in the

3156
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:28,480
yukon

3157
02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:31,920
and stuff like that but in america

3158
02:08:39,030 --> 02:08:35,440
it doesn't seem plausible that there is

3159
02:08:42,870 --> 02:08:39,040
an entirely new well i guess not new

3160
02:08:45,589 --> 02:08:42,880
but an entirely different species of

3161
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,599
of creature like lurking out in the

3162
02:08:49,990 --> 02:08:47,520
woods especially with how large it is

3163
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:50,000
you know what i mean but but why go

3164
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:50,560
there

3165
02:08:59,589 --> 02:08:57,119
but why you i mean i just

3166
02:09:00,870 --> 02:08:59,599
i really feel like in the america in

3167
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:00,880
america

3168
02:09:05,589 --> 02:09:03,840
there is i'm first of all i just don't

3169
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:05,599
think something that big can be that

3170
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,719
fast

3171
02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:08,800
like they're basically putting like the

3172
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:11,199
abilities of like the incredible hulk

3173
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:14,400
on on on bigfoot where he can just

3174
02:09:19,109 --> 02:09:16,079
disappear

3175
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:19,119
like i don't think something that big is

3176
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:21,520
that agile first of all

3177
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:24,000
and there would there would be you know

3178
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:25,360
fecal matter

3179
02:09:30,069 --> 02:09:27,119
left behind there would be you would

3180
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:30,079
still be seeing large footprints

3181
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:31,280
you know i mean there's only i mean

3182
02:09:34,470 --> 02:09:32,400
there's been a decent amount of

3183
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:34,480
footprints but it could have been uh

3184
02:09:40,709 --> 02:09:37,520
what's that thing called from they lived

3185
02:09:41,589 --> 02:09:40,719
uh it's the big monkey man i forget what

3186
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:41,599
it's called

3187
02:09:45,589 --> 02:09:44,639
yeti yeti no it's it was like an actual

3188
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:45,599
thing that lived

3189
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:48,800
like a hundred thousand years ago

3190
02:09:52,229 --> 02:09:51,520
it was like uh uh something apithicus i

3191
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:52,239
can't remember

3192
02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:55,760
okay um but it was a large

3193
02:10:00,870 --> 02:09:58,400
neanderthal you just said it gorilla

3194
02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:00,880
gorilla type gorilla type thing that was

3195
02:10:05,430 --> 02:10:02,320
large it was like 10 feet tall

3196
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:05,440
20 feet tall right the austropicus or

3197
02:10:10,790 --> 02:10:06,079
whatever

3198
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:10,800
don't think in modern day

3199
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:14,000
america anything like that would be

3200
02:10:18,069 --> 02:10:16,000
able to hide i mean i know plenty of

3201
02:10:22,310 --> 02:10:18,079
guys who go out

3202
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:22,320
and hunt and and explore all these woods

3203
02:10:25,270 --> 02:10:23,440
you know there's guys like adam

3204
02:10:26,390 --> 02:10:25,280
greenfield who go out there for months

3205
02:10:27,750 --> 02:10:26,400
at a time

3206
02:10:30,709 --> 02:10:27,760
and they've never seen anything like

3207
02:10:34,470 --> 02:10:30,719
that now it would make more sense to me

3208
02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:34,480
if like i said it was in northern canada

3209
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:37,440
where it's super uninhabitable you can't

3210
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:38,400
live there

3211
02:10:44,149 --> 02:10:41,440
that i think would make more sense

3212
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:44,159
now you've been on tour yeah you've

3213
02:10:47,189 --> 02:10:45,520
you've driven

3214
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:47,199
uh and i know what it's like to be on

3215
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:48,800
tour on a tour bus and you're just

3216
02:10:52,870 --> 02:10:51,040
driving for hours and hours and hours

3217
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:52,880
and you're looking out the window

3218
02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:56,000
i just uh a few months ago i

3219
02:11:03,109 --> 02:10:59,440
i drove in my jeep i went

3220
02:11:04,629 --> 02:11:03,119
from uh los angeles to the canadian

3221
02:11:08,390 --> 02:11:04,639
border and back

3222
02:11:12,069 --> 02:11:08,400
and driving on these

3223
02:11:14,709 --> 02:11:12,079
free these highways uh through

3224
02:11:15,910 --> 02:11:14,719
the redwoods and through these mountains

3225
02:11:19,430 --> 02:11:15,920
looking at

3226
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:19,440
miles and miles and miles and miles

3227
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:22,880
of a forest you know covered in these

3228
02:11:27,589 --> 02:11:25,520
uh redwoods you're looking out and i i

3229
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:27,599
can't help but think to myself

3230
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:31,360
no human has ever been in there

3231
02:11:37,830 --> 02:11:34,880
it's it's right there's no way

3232
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:37,840
that anybody's ever walked through that

3233
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:38,800
ever

3234
02:11:43,589 --> 02:11:41,440
um with all the population of l.a and

3235
02:11:45,589 --> 02:11:43,599
new york and you think of these concrete

3236
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:45,599
jungles that we live in here

3237
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:47,679
but when you get up into northern

3238
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:48,960
california through

3239
02:11:52,950 --> 02:11:51,920
oregon and up into washington you're

3240
02:11:55,510 --> 02:11:52,960
driving

3241
02:11:56,950 --> 02:11:55,520
through these areas where anything could

3242
02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:56,960
be living in there

3243
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:59,360
i mean yeah i mean i i've driven through

3244
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:00,960
the siskiyous

3245
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:02,880
and you know which is just north of

3246
02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:04,400
redding california

3247
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:06,639
and you know you go up and you go down

3248
02:12:10,790 --> 02:12:07,440
and

3249
02:12:12,709 --> 02:12:10,800
it's literally just forest for

3250
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:12,719
ever as far as the eye control right

3251
02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:14,239
right

3252
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:16,960
but i mean there's locals to that area

3253
02:12:20,229 --> 02:12:17,920
and i'm sure

3254
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:20,239
there's a lot of hunters up there you

3255
02:12:24,470 --> 02:12:21,599
know i know that they have a big

3256
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:24,480
um they have a big archery tournament in

3257
02:12:27,109 --> 02:12:25,840
red in california every year we got to

3258
02:12:29,910 --> 02:12:27,119
shoot the bigfoot

3259
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:29,920
uh which is a big tall like foam bigfoot

3260
02:12:34,069 --> 02:12:30,880
that they have there

3261
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:34,079
right but i mean

3262
02:12:40,870 --> 02:12:37,199
i don't know i i feel like

3263
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:40,880
if there were big big feet

3264
02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:42,480
would that be the way to that's the way

3265
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:44,079
to say it

3266
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:45,520
if there were big feet they have

3267
02:12:49,750 --> 02:12:47,440
definitely migrated north

3268
02:12:50,550 --> 02:12:49,760
to where that they know that there is no

3269
02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:50,560
human

3270
02:12:57,430 --> 02:12:54,560
population i um

3271
02:12:57,750 --> 02:12:57,440
i'm on the fence and i'm on the fence

3272
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:57,760
for

3273
02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:59,599
a lot of different reasons one we

3274
02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:01,199
haven't found a corpse

3275
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:02,480
right yeah you would yeah that's another

3276
02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:04,560
one yeah you'd think somebody would have

3277
02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:07,840
hit one with a car right we hit deer all

3278
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:08,880
day long

3279
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:11,599
millions of deer every right it's a

3280
02:13:16,149 --> 02:13:12,880
tragedy they need

3281
02:13:19,910 --> 02:13:16,159
yeah they need our donations uh now but

3282
02:13:23,189 --> 02:13:19,920
there's there's that part of it and then

3283
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:23,199
i saw this is about three years ago and

3284
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:26,560
uh i was with uh i was with a couple

3285
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:28,320
hundred people actually

3286
02:13:32,229 --> 02:13:31,040
and we're having a conference um up in

3287
02:13:35,030 --> 02:13:32,239
washington

3288
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:35,040
and i see for the first time i see my

3289
02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:37,440
first set of bigfoot prints

3290
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:40,320
and that were discovered by these kids

3291
02:13:43,669 --> 02:13:41,280
that were there

3292
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:43,679
and uh they pulled me over jimmy you

3293
02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:45,760
want to see a big footprint i'm like oh

3294
02:13:50,069 --> 02:13:46,880
come on man

3295
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:50,079
i'm busy right go do something and

3296
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:51,280
they're like no it's

3297
02:13:54,470 --> 02:13:53,040
how far do i have to walk it's right

3298
02:13:57,270 --> 02:13:54,480
over here really

3299
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:57,280
and i see uh you know the three kids

3300
02:14:01,109 --> 02:13:59,119
standing over there waving at me so i

3301
02:14:04,149 --> 02:14:01,119
walk over and i look down

3302
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:04,159
kyle this big yeah

3303
02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:07,679
right this deep in the ground toes

3304
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:10,800
i'm looking like what the heck

3305
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:13,520
and so we bring over a camera crew and

3306
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:15,119
we document everything we ended up

3307
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:16,880
finding four

3308
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:20,400
uh one of them no actually two two were

3309
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,360
perfectly crisp in this hard packed

3310
02:14:28,790 --> 02:14:25,520
ground by the way i'm 200 pounds

3311
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:28,800
i'm not making a dent in this dirt and

3312
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:32,079
and these these prints were about uh two

3313
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:34,880
two and a half three inches deep now i

3314
02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:36,560
stepped back and i thought okay

3315
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:39,040
either this was hoaxed right somebody

3316
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:39,679
did this

3317
02:14:47,030 --> 02:14:43,040
for us to discover or they're real um

3318
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:47,040
but i was perplexed now did you

3319
02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:48,880
go ahead oh sorry oh no i was just gonna

3320
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:50,560
ask like in the prince

3321
02:14:54,229 --> 02:14:53,520
did you see something that like looked

3322
02:14:57,350 --> 02:14:54,239
like a

3323
02:14:58,069 --> 02:14:57,360
kind of like fingerprint uh no the the

3324
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:58,079
the print

3325
02:15:04,629 --> 02:15:01,599
was in the grass so

3326
02:15:05,510 --> 02:15:04,639
embedded in the footprint was the the

3327
02:15:09,109 --> 02:15:05,520
grass

3328
02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:09,119
we're in a field yeah and uh so

3329
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:11,360
no there was nothing uh there's no

3330
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:12,239
fingerprint no

3331
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:14,560
no because it was it was the grass that

3332
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:15,840
was mashed down

3333
02:15:19,990 --> 02:15:18,800
into these um but did it convince me

3334
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,000
that bigfoot is real

3335
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,800
no but i i gotta tell you the hair stood

3336
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:24,400
up in the back of my neck when i saw i

3337
02:15:29,270 --> 02:15:26,159
mean i couldn't believe

3338
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:29,280
yeah and and these prints were about six

3339
02:15:34,229 --> 02:15:30,639
feet apart

3340
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,239
right i tried to step and i couldn't

3341
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:36,400
you know my gate is whatever three and a

3342
02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:37,360
half feet

3343
02:15:41,830 --> 02:15:39,760
but whatever this was was big and it

3344
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:41,840
arched uh to the left now

3345
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:43,920
again is it like you're saying is that

3346
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:45,920
enough ah

3347
02:15:50,149 --> 02:15:48,320
no it's not you know i i would have

3348
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:50,159
loved to have seen what made those

3349
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:53,199
prints yeah you know but like you know

3350
02:15:57,430 --> 02:15:54,400
like you said like

3351
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:57,440
they're never being they never found a

3352
02:16:02,310 --> 02:15:59,280
corpse

3353
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:02,320
and like when prince

3354
02:16:05,109 --> 02:16:03,679
like you know like gorillas like they

3355
02:16:06,709 --> 02:16:05,119
have fingerprints like we do on their

3356
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:06,719
feet you know like we all have like toe

3357
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:08,320
prints and fingerprints and stuff like

3358
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:08,960
that

3359
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:12,639
like when i see prints like footprints

3360
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:14,800
and you don't especially if it's in like

3361
02:16:20,149 --> 02:16:16,880
mud or something

3362
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:20,159
and of course it was in grass so any

3363
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:20,880
type of

3364
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:22,880
fingerprint would be obstructed like

3365
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:24,239
that's where i kind of like

3366
02:16:28,709 --> 02:16:26,880
uh i'm not really sure because it

3367
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:28,719
doesn't matter how much you weigh

3368
02:16:32,309 --> 02:16:31,440
you could easily make something and sled

3369
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,319
have two

3370
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:34,319
big dudes sledgehammer that thing into

3371
02:16:38,309 --> 02:16:35,439
the ground

3372
02:16:38,709 --> 02:16:38,319
to make those prints yes you know what i

3373
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:38,719
mean

3374
02:16:41,910 --> 02:16:40,559
yeah and it would have to have been done

3375
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:41,920
in the mud

3376
02:16:47,190 --> 02:16:45,280
uh the ground was too too hard packed

3377
02:16:49,429 --> 02:16:47,200
at that point unless this thing was you

3378
02:16:52,709 --> 02:16:49,439
know 15 tons

3379
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:52,719
but uh but what about

3380
02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:56,559
the inter-dimensional aspect of it

3381
02:17:02,389 --> 02:17:00,399
where maybe bigfoot is just visiting

3382
02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:02,399
right and and coming from another

3383
02:17:05,830 --> 02:17:04,319
parallel world or another dimension

3384
02:17:08,309 --> 02:17:05,840
maybe it's a ufo

3385
02:17:10,150 --> 02:17:08,319
you know but and that's why we haven't

3386
02:17:12,709 --> 02:17:10,160
found a corpse

3387
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:12,719
yeah because there's an interdimensional

3388
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:14,160
aspect to bigfoot

3389
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:17,599
and i'm i'm more okay with that than i

3390
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:19,840
am like you're saying as some species

3391
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:21,040
that is just

3392
02:17:28,150 --> 02:17:25,040
you know hiding from us yeah i mean

3393
02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:28,160
even that i think for me is is a stretch

3394
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:29,760
like when it comes to

3395
02:17:32,950 --> 02:17:31,840
like i believe that there are parallel

3396
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:32,960
universes

3397
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:34,960
but i really don't think that there is a

3398
02:17:41,750 --> 02:17:37,760
way to tread between them

3399
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:41,760
you know like maybe you know deja vu is

3400
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:42,000
kind

3401
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:44,000
of like our glimpse into the parallel

3402
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:45,920
universe or

3403
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:48,399
i mean i just think it would literally

3404
02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:50,080
mess up

3405
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:52,160
times the time space continuum if you

3406
02:17:55,990 --> 02:17:54,319
had like you know

3407
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,000
the jimmy church from this parallel

3408
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:58,080
universe crossing into our parallel

3409
02:18:00,389 --> 02:17:59,200
universe

3410
02:18:02,309 --> 02:18:00,399
you know you can't handle two of the

3411
02:18:04,230 --> 02:18:02,319
same beings that are occupying the same

3412
02:18:08,549 --> 02:18:04,240
space at the same time

3413
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:08,559
um like uh god what was that movie

3414
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:10,399
when they were in space and they

3415
02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:13,200
traveled oh the cloverfield paradox

3416
02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:15,920
oh yeah that's great movie actually yeah

3417
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:16,240
they

3418
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:20,800
were going to

3419
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:23,679
you know power up their device and it

3420
02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:24,000
shot

3421
02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:25,840
them through to it by parallel universe

3422
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:27,120
where everything was different and then

3423
02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:28,240
people started like

3424
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:31,280
melting into the ship right

3425
02:18:37,990 --> 02:18:34,800
um i don't know like i really think that

3426
02:18:40,629 --> 02:18:38,000
you know maybe because you know bigfoot

3427
02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:40,639
doesn't exist in our plane that if they

3428
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:41,040
were

3429
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:45,200
able to um

3430
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:48,160
travel between parallel universes or

3431
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:49,120
what have you

3432
02:18:52,230 --> 02:18:51,040
that it would make that would make more

3433
02:18:55,270 --> 02:18:52,240
sense but

3434
02:18:56,469 --> 02:18:55,280
like you said not getting corpses um

3435
02:18:58,309 --> 02:18:56,479
you know there was that whole thing with

3436
02:19:00,150 --> 02:18:58,319
the with the original bigfoot footage

3437
02:19:02,070 --> 02:19:00,160
from the 60s that like

3438
02:19:03,910 --> 02:19:02,080
you know people say oh you know it's so

3439
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:03,920
grainy oh but i saw the zipper and then

3440
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:05,280
there was the guy who's like no that was

3441
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:07,120
me in the suit

3442
02:19:10,549 --> 02:19:09,439
um i don't know i would definitely have

3443
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:10,559
to

3444
02:19:17,349 --> 02:19:15,439
something

3445
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:17,359
that was just a little bit more rock

3446
02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:19,040
solid i mean don't get me wrong i'm sure

3447
02:19:22,309 --> 02:19:20,000
i would have been

3448
02:19:23,750 --> 02:19:22,319
just as in awe as you were when you saw

3449
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:23,760
those those prince in the ground i

3450
02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:25,040
probably i probably would have

3451
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:26,399
i probably would have would have pooed

3452
02:19:32,230 --> 02:19:29,200
my my pants i almost lost my mind

3453
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:32,240
uh yeah i i i i was

3454
02:19:38,709 --> 02:19:35,439
i was confused um and the

3455
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:38,719
and the reason uh for that is because

3456
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:39,439
i'm trying to

3457
02:19:45,429 --> 02:19:44,160
as i'm looking at this footprint and i'm

3458
02:19:48,870 --> 02:19:45,439
standing there

3459
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:48,880
and i'm not denting the dirt

3460
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:51,680
and these look fresh to me yeah right i

3461
02:19:58,070 --> 02:19:54,479
mean this was grass that was mashed down

3462
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:58,080
and if i'm not denting the dirt

3463
02:20:02,870 --> 02:20:01,200
then somebody couldn't have made

3464
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:02,880
it wasn't somebody running around with

3465
02:20:08,550 --> 02:20:05,200
bigfoot uh shoes on

3466
02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:08,560
right the gate was too far apart

3467
02:20:12,230 --> 02:20:10,880
so and i'm just trying to rationalize

3468
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:12,240
and trying to figure all of this out i'm

3469
02:20:16,550 --> 02:20:13,359
trying to

3470
02:20:17,429 --> 02:20:16,560
debunk it but the thing that was messing

3471
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:17,439
with my head

3472
02:20:24,790 --> 02:20:20,880
was i was standing right there and i was

3473
02:20:25,349 --> 02:20:24,800
not denting anything i wasn't going into

3474
02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:25,359
the dirt

3475
02:20:29,110 --> 02:20:28,479
this much yeah right an eighth of an

3476
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:29,120
inch

3477
02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:31,520
let alone this print as i'm sticking my

3478
02:20:36,389 --> 02:20:32,960
finger down

3479
02:20:38,309 --> 02:20:36,399
in it on on video uh and it's going

3480
02:20:40,550 --> 02:20:38,319
my whole finger is going to the bottom

3481
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,560
of the footprint what made this

3482
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,479
yeah the only and like i said the only

3483
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:44,399
thing i can really think of is

3484
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:46,720
you know i know it rains a lot in

3485
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:48,479
washington state

3486
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,600
you know and maybe

3487
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,200
it could have been used with some sort

3488
02:20:56,790 --> 02:20:54,960
of mold

3489
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:56,800
you know i don't i don't know i'm with

3490
02:21:02,389 --> 02:20:59,040
you on all of this

3491
02:21:03,190 --> 02:21:02,399
uh it uh it was pretty amazing uh for me

3492
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:03,200
to see

3493
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:05,840
um now uh let me look at the clock we've

3494
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:07,120
only got a few minutes left you want to

3495
02:21:10,150 --> 02:21:08,720
do some overtime

3496
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,160
do you have anything do you have

3497
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,399
anything got nothing going on tomorrow

3498
02:21:16,790 --> 02:21:14,240
you don't have to get up early uh

3499
02:21:18,469 --> 02:21:16,800
no uh for band practice or anything nah

3500
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:18,479
i'm i'm doing a twitch stream tomorrow

3501
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:19,600
but that's not till the afternoon

3502
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:22,560
yeah right on right on um is that time

3503
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:23,680
travel

3504
02:21:30,309 --> 02:21:26,720
um this is another aspect

3505
02:21:33,990 --> 02:21:30,319
of uh i study physics a lot

3506
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:34,000
and uh the references to the possibility

3507
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:35,680
of time travel

3508
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:38,880
uh being real or not is is pretty

3509
02:21:43,030 --> 02:21:40,000
fascinating to me is

3510
02:21:43,910 --> 02:21:43,040
this something that you've looked into a

3511
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:43,920
little bit

3512
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:46,960
and it's like i really feel

3513
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:49,520
i'm i'm one of those people that if time

3514
02:21:53,110 --> 02:21:50,080
travel

3515
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:53,120
is possible i don't think it would work

3516
02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:55,120
the way that it does in the movies you

3517
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:56,399
know what i mean

3518
02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:59,680
because sharing the same space

3519
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:02,160
occupying the same space as your past

3520
02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:03,040
self

3521
02:22:07,510 --> 02:22:05,600
i think it like might work in the way of

3522
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:07,520
consciousness

3523
02:22:12,550 --> 02:22:11,200
i'm not sure but how could you

3524
02:22:14,230 --> 02:22:12,560
and again there might be someone who can

3525
02:22:18,150 --> 02:22:14,240
actually answer this like how could i

3526
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:18,160
occupy the same space as myself

3527
02:22:22,070 --> 02:22:19,680
stand there and look at yourself

3528
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:22,080
physically yeah yeah i mean that

3529
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:24,000
that to me is just like the world's

3530
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:25,200
gonna implode or

3531
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:28,560
something you know so maybe you're going

3532
02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:32,800
back in time via your consciousness

3533
02:22:39,190 --> 02:22:36,080
makes more sense to observe yeah

3534
02:22:41,510 --> 02:22:39,200
not to interact yeah or

3535
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:41,520
maybe i mean i i really don't know

3536
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:42,560
because there's a whole bunch of

3537
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:43,120
different

3538
02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:45,280
you know ways that it's been portrayed

3539
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:47,120
through popular

3540
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:49,600
you know pop culture and media over the

3541
02:22:53,990 --> 02:22:50,399
last

3542
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:54,000
what 40 50 years right hg wells

3543
02:23:00,870 --> 02:22:57,439
the timing right yeah

3544
02:23:02,070 --> 02:23:00,880
so i mean but i but then again i could

3545
02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:02,080
be completely wrong

3546
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:05,280
because maybe we haven't seen any

3547
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:07,280
time travelers yet because i mean no one

3548
02:23:12,389 --> 02:23:08,720
wants to come to 2020.

3549
02:23:17,110 --> 02:23:12,399
but uh like maybe it just opens up

3550
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:17,120
to another plane of existence

3551
02:23:23,429 --> 02:23:20,240
so it's like we're living this

3552
02:23:26,950 --> 02:23:23,439
this straight line someone

3553
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:26,960
in our future in our future timeline

3554
02:23:31,270 --> 02:23:30,560
invents time travel goes back to their

3555
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:31,280
past

3556
02:23:36,790 --> 02:23:34,240
that they know but then that creates a

3557
02:23:39,190 --> 02:23:36,800
separate timeline with a separate future

3558
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:39,200
so that future that you go like when you

3559
02:23:45,110 --> 02:23:40,479
go back

3560
02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:45,120
you return

3561
02:23:49,110 --> 02:23:47,280
isn't on the same timeline as your

3562
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:49,120
original

3563
02:23:54,070 --> 02:23:51,920
jumping point right does that make any

3564
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:54,080
sense no it does 100

3565
02:23:57,830 --> 02:23:56,080
and then each time that you do that i've

3566
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:57,840
it's just going to branch out

3567
02:24:03,750 --> 02:24:00,880
into different lines here and there

3568
02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:03,760
how would you and i've always find that

3569
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:05,840
uh found that so fascinating

3570
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:09,200
how would you if you did that get

3571
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,240
back to where you were originally

3572
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:14,479
i don't think you could right i i think

3573
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:15,920
if you're if you're

3574
02:24:22,070 --> 02:24:20,319
if you're messing with

3575
02:24:23,510 --> 02:24:22,080
but then but then again then i'm then

3576
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:23,520
i'm contradicting myself

3577
02:24:27,590 --> 02:24:25,760
because if i'm going back in time from

3578
02:24:31,670 --> 02:24:27,600
say like right now and i go back in time

3579
02:24:35,429 --> 02:24:31,680
ten years and

3580
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:35,439
i'm and i create another timeline

3581
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:37,359
the original timeline that i left from

3582
02:24:41,030 --> 02:24:39,040
is now sans kyle

3583
02:24:42,070 --> 02:24:41,040
that's right you're not so they're right

3584
02:24:46,230 --> 02:24:42,080
yeah i'm not there

3585
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:46,240
so would you just cease to exist in that

3586
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:49,439
in that in that in that timeline

3587
02:24:56,150 --> 02:24:52,720
yeah the band's like where where's kyle

3588
02:24:58,070 --> 02:24:56,160
right you're just like gone yeah

3589
02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:58,080
so i mean i mean i don't know i'm there

3590
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:59,680
i guess there would have to be some sort

3591
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:00,880
of way to be

3592
02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:03,520
to be cohesive to where you can i time

3593
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:04,080
traveled

3594
02:25:10,389 --> 02:25:07,600
i left at 9 22 p.m i got to come back at

3595
02:25:12,150 --> 02:25:10,399
9 22 p.m so maybe there's maybe there

3596
02:25:15,670 --> 02:25:12,160
could be certain

3597
02:25:17,270 --> 02:25:15,680
um like you know rules

3598
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:17,280
and i would make sense like you need to

3599
02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:19,120
come back the exact same time that you

3600
02:25:23,510 --> 02:25:20,720
left

3601
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:23,520
or else a wormhole happens which is fine

3602
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:25,040
if you're time traveling and you have

3603
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:27,280
the ability to go back

3604
02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,760
and and do that you should be able to

3605
02:25:32,550 --> 02:25:31,840
pick the time that you come back or it's

3606
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,560
just like

3607
02:25:36,389 --> 02:25:34,880
oh hey i can i can time travel to a

3608
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:36,399
specific day but not at a

3609
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:39,600
at a specific time so if you're like

3610
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:46,950
december 2nd uh 2010

3611
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:50,880
i got to go i got to leave at 9 22 pm

3612
02:25:53,910 --> 02:25:53,520
or the timeline's messed up or the times

3613
02:25:58,309 --> 02:25:53,920
and

3614
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:58,319
not only is it messed up but the

3615
02:26:02,150 --> 02:26:00,720
the universe and this is something that

3616
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:02,160
can't be messed with

3617
02:26:09,270 --> 02:26:06,240
the universe has a certain amount

3618
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:09,280
of particles and atoms and gases

3619
02:26:15,910 --> 02:26:13,200
and things right it's set in stone

3620
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:15,920
there is no increase or decrease nothing

3621
02:26:20,150 --> 02:26:17,280
is created new

3622
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:20,160
right it's only made with previous

3623
02:26:28,230 --> 02:26:21,680
stardust

3624
02:26:29,190 --> 02:26:28,240
right you are not made of new stuff

3625
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:29,200
right you are

3626
02:26:36,469 --> 02:26:33,280
old stuff uh i'm breathing the air

3627
02:26:37,190 --> 02:26:36,479
that the dinosaurs breathed it's the

3628
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:37,200
same air

3629
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:40,080
right there's nothing new and created

3630
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:40,560
and

3631
02:26:48,070 --> 02:26:44,800
so if you take yourself out of

3632
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:48,080
this timeline and move those

3633
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:50,319
particles to somewhere else and are now

3634
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:51,520
adding

3635
02:26:58,710 --> 02:26:57,120
you're right i think though i think

3636
02:27:01,270 --> 02:26:58,720
things would implode

3637
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:01,280
right you're now upsetting the balance

3638
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:02,000
of nature

3639
02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:03,680
you're upsetting the balance of the

3640
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,439
universe and that would make

3641
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:07,600
that type of physical time travel

3642
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:09,760
probably impossible

3643
02:27:13,429 --> 02:27:11,760
yeah it would have so that's why like

3644
02:27:14,950 --> 02:27:13,439
that's why i feel like the one thing

3645
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:14,960
that makes sense

3646
02:27:19,670 --> 02:27:18,160
would be to be able to time travel via

3647
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:19,680
consciousness

3648
02:27:24,630 --> 02:27:21,920
like you know the old saying like i wish

3649
02:27:26,309 --> 02:27:24,640
i knew then what i know now

3650
02:27:28,469 --> 02:27:26,319
maybe you can make that possible in the

3651
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:28,479
future you know what i mean

3652
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:30,399
because then you're not adding anything

3653
02:27:35,670 --> 02:27:32,479
to the atoms you're literally

3654
02:27:38,950 --> 02:27:35,680
time traveling through your life right

3655
02:27:40,469 --> 02:27:38,960
what do you do what if you could go back

3656
02:27:42,070 --> 02:27:40,479
uh how old were you when you started

3657
02:27:43,990 --> 02:27:42,080
playing bass

3658
02:27:45,270 --> 02:27:44,000
um well i started playing guitar when i

3659
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:45,280
was 10 years old

3660
02:27:49,750 --> 02:27:47,520
and i started i i messed around on bass

3661
02:27:51,429 --> 02:27:49,760
a little bit when i was 13 and 14

3662
02:27:53,429 --> 02:27:51,439
but i didn't actually really pick up

3663
02:27:54,870 --> 02:27:53,439
like the bass as my predominant

3664
02:27:58,710 --> 02:27:54,880
instrument until i was

3665
02:28:02,070 --> 02:27:58,720
about 18. so what do you do

3666
02:28:03,190 --> 02:28:02,080
if you could go back to your 13 year old

3667
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:03,200
bass playing

3668
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:06,960
self what secret do you give

3669
02:28:13,650 --> 02:28:10,560
what what what musical secret do you

3670
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:13,660
give to yourself get lessons

3671
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:16,640
[Laughter]

3672
02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:18,880
i'm off to that if i could go back right

3673
02:28:24,469 --> 02:28:20,160
and i went back

3674
02:28:27,750 --> 02:28:24,479
to like the 1977 version of me

3675
02:28:31,190 --> 02:28:27,760
do i take like

3676
02:28:34,150 --> 02:28:31,200
ozzy osbourne blizzard of oz right do i

3677
02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:34,160
give myself the randy r do i take myself

3678
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:37,120
in vae malmsteen

3679
02:28:41,270 --> 02:28:39,200
you know what i mean just i mean but if

3680
02:28:44,389 --> 02:28:41,280
you can time travel via consciousness

3681
02:28:47,510 --> 02:28:44,399
like all the stuff that i know now

3682
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:47,520
i'm bringing back to my 13 year old self

3683
02:28:52,070 --> 02:28:48,479
so it's like

3684
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:52,080
yo i could write all the records that i

3685
02:28:57,670 --> 02:28:54,319
know how to play

3686
02:28:59,349 --> 02:28:57,680
and like have them come out before their

3687
02:28:59,830 --> 02:28:59,359
time that's what i'm saying do you do

3688
02:29:02,469 --> 02:28:59,840
that what

3689
02:29:04,790 --> 02:29:02,479
what and what because i mean i i think

3690
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:04,800
like if i were to come out with like

3691
02:29:09,990 --> 02:29:08,080
um what's a what's a really good like if

3692
02:29:13,590 --> 02:29:10,000
i were like invent a genre

3693
02:29:15,750 --> 02:29:13,600
at 13 like it might not hit the same

3694
02:29:17,270 --> 02:29:15,760
that it did when i it was a popular

3695
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:17,280
genre in my 20s

3696
02:29:21,429 --> 02:29:19,680
you know right it's the natural

3697
02:29:24,070 --> 02:29:21,439
evolution of music

3698
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:24,080
and like i could have wrote you know

3699
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:26,160
like say i go back to

3700
02:29:31,750 --> 02:29:30,319
um you know 1990

3701
02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:31,760
you know like forget about everything we

3702
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:33,840
talked about and i wrote the original

3703
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:35,920
corn record in 1990 before it came out

3704
02:29:41,270 --> 02:29:38,080
in 1996 or 1994

3705
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:41,280
right it might not hit the same you know

3706
02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:43,200
lincoln people weren't yeah people

3707
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:44,800
weren't ready for that yet

3708
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:48,000
like once grunge died you know

3709
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:50,560
that's kind of when everything started

3710
02:29:55,750 --> 02:29:53,120
to change

3711
02:29:57,349 --> 02:29:55,760
and so i think if i were to go back and

3712
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:57,359
try to

3713
02:30:00,469 --> 02:30:00,000
completely steal somebody's music to try

3714
02:30:03,590 --> 02:30:00,479
to

3715
02:30:04,950 --> 02:30:03,600
financially benefit myself i i really

3716
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:04,960
think it would have the

3717
02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:08,399
literal opposite effect

3718
02:30:12,950 --> 02:30:10,640
because there's there's a there's like a

3719
02:30:15,349 --> 02:30:12,960
bridge that you're not getting

3720
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:15,359
there's like influences that they've had

3721
02:30:18,790 --> 02:30:16,720
that made the music

3722
02:30:20,790 --> 02:30:18,800
that they wrote and came out with such

3723
02:30:22,550 --> 02:30:20,800
influential music themselves

3724
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:22,560
there's like there's a piece that's

3725
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:24,160
missing and i don't think it would hit

3726
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:25,120
the same

3727
02:30:29,190 --> 02:30:27,680
you don't think uh if you busted out

3728
02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:29,200
with uh

3729
02:30:35,110 --> 02:30:33,040
rage against the machine in 1990

3730
02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:35,120
you know you know what i mean and uh

3731
02:30:40,469 --> 02:30:38,560
that that that would have caught

3732
02:30:41,750 --> 02:30:40,479
no because i think in the time because i

3733
02:30:43,510 --> 02:30:41,760
mean the bridges machine only played

3734
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:43,520
like one show i think before

3735
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:46,319
they were signed it was ridiculous but

3736
02:30:50,469 --> 02:30:47,760
there was a lot of

3737
02:30:52,309 --> 02:30:50,479
that time you know there was like you

3738
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:52,319
know the rodney king there was all this

3739
02:30:54,870 --> 02:30:54,000
political stuff going on there was a

3740
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:54,880
whole bunch

3741
02:30:57,910 --> 02:30:56,800
there was like a it was like a political

3742
02:30:59,750 --> 02:30:57,920
revolution

3743
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:59,760
and then here comes this band and many

3744
02:31:03,030 --> 02:31:01,439
people may not realize

3745
02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:03,040
like that how how much they were

3746
02:31:07,030 --> 02:31:04,640
politically affiliated but there was an

3747
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:07,040
attitude that came into writing those

3748
02:31:10,150 --> 02:31:07,760
songs

3749
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:10,160
that were based off of their experiences

3750
02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:11,760
and the stuff that was happening in that

3751
02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:12,640
present time

3752
02:31:16,150 --> 02:31:13,840
that i don't think that you could

3753
02:31:19,750 --> 02:31:16,160
replicate even if you played those

3754
02:31:20,550 --> 02:31:19,760
those songs note for note sang them note

3755
02:31:21,910 --> 02:31:20,560
for note

3756
02:31:23,750 --> 02:31:21,920
i don't think it would come across the

3757
02:31:25,110 --> 02:31:23,760
same you don't think so uh you're

3758
02:31:27,590 --> 02:31:25,120
probably right there

3759
02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:27,600
and and thank you for making me feel a

3760
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:29,280
little bit dumber than i thought i was

3761
02:31:36,230 --> 02:31:31,600
being kind of smart

3762
02:31:39,349 --> 02:31:36,240
and the reason why i say it like i do

3763
02:31:41,990 --> 02:31:39,359
is there were a few things i'm literally

3764
02:31:42,950 --> 02:31:42,000
uh 30 seconds past my commercial break

3765
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:42,960
i'm letting uh

3766
02:31:46,070 --> 02:31:45,040
the network know i'll take my break in

3767
02:31:47,750 --> 02:31:46,080
30 seconds

3768
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:47,760
that there were a few things that broke

3769
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:49,120
out that were timeless

3770
02:31:56,230 --> 02:31:52,479
um rage against the machine today

3771
02:31:56,710 --> 02:31:56,240
is fresh to me right i listened to today

3772
02:32:00,630 --> 02:31:56,720
and it

3773
02:32:02,630 --> 02:32:00,640
sounds as fresh as it did in 1995

3774
02:32:03,750 --> 02:32:02,640
when my mind was blown corrosion of

3775
02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:03,760
conformity

3776
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:05,680
you know and and the things that were

3777
02:32:07,990 --> 02:32:07,280
happening back then i listened to them

3778
02:32:09,510 --> 02:32:08,000
today

3779
02:32:11,429 --> 02:32:09,520
and i feel like they they could have

3780
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:11,439
been released today

3781
02:32:15,030 --> 02:32:14,240
um pantera it still has that same effect

3782
02:32:16,950 --> 02:32:15,040
on me

3783
02:32:18,309 --> 02:32:16,960
i mean pantera was around a long time

3784
02:32:18,550 --> 02:32:18,319
before cowboy as a hell came out you

3785
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:18,560
know

3786
02:32:23,910 --> 02:32:22,240
right they had they had black magic

3787
02:32:25,270 --> 02:32:23,920
yes they were doing they they tried a

3788
02:32:26,950 --> 02:32:25,280
whole bunch of different styles before

3789
02:32:29,670 --> 02:32:26,960
they were just like you know what

3790
02:32:32,710 --> 02:32:29,680
let's just do what we like let's not try

3791
02:32:35,750 --> 02:32:32,720
to be like skid row or motley crew

3792
02:32:37,830 --> 02:32:35,760
let's do what feels good to us and we

3793
02:32:38,710 --> 02:32:37,840
got that timeless album cowboys from

3794
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:38,720
hell

3795
02:32:41,750 --> 02:32:40,479
it's still still today one of the

3796
02:32:43,270 --> 02:32:41,760
greatest albums uh

3797
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:43,280
in the history of everything let's take

3798
02:32:46,870 --> 02:32:44,880
our quick break we're gonna do some

3799
02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:46,880
overtime kyle cockeel is here

3800
02:32:51,030 --> 02:32:49,600
bad wolves bassist i am your host jimmy

3801
02:32:52,150 --> 02:32:51,040
church stay right there we're doing

3802
02:32:53,670 --> 02:32:52,160
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3803
02:32:57,270 --> 02:32:53,680
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3804
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:57,280
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3805
02:33:00,469 --> 02:32:58,399
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3806
02:33:01,670 --> 02:33:00,479
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3807
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3808
02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:04,479
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3809
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3810
02:33:26,309 --> 02:33:07,439
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3811
02:33:30,630 --> 02:33:28,710
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3812
02:33:35,830 --> 02:33:30,640
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a cramp in my routine

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a good friend recently told me about

3884
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3890
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3891
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3892
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3897
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3898
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3899
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3921
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is kgraradio.com jimmychurchradio.com

3922
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:04,630
welcome back fade to block i'm your host

3923
02:38:09,590 --> 02:38:06,560
jimmy church heading into overtime

3924
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:09,600
kyle conkill of bad wolves

3925
02:38:13,349 --> 02:38:12,160
the bassist is with us tonight what a

3926
02:38:17,270 --> 02:38:13,359
great conversation

3927
02:38:19,590 --> 02:38:17,280
and i want to i want to uh

3928
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:19,600
i want to go into a different zone and

3929
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:21,040
and that's what's cool about

3930
02:38:24,389 --> 02:38:24,080
overtime uh kyle is uh the pressure's

3931
02:38:28,070 --> 02:38:24,399
off

3932
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,080
to ask you this

3933
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:30,240
question and and and just be straight

3934
02:38:34,870 --> 02:38:31,200
with me

3935
02:38:37,750 --> 02:38:34,880
what is it about musicians

3936
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:37,760
and the paranormal and the supernatural

3937
02:38:40,950 --> 02:38:38,160
well

3938
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,960
what's going on there it's it's it's

3939
02:38:45,830 --> 02:38:42,479
it's a marriage made in heaven

3940
02:38:48,870 --> 02:38:45,840
i think well i really think to do

3941
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:48,880
what i do and a lot of my

3942
02:38:55,110 --> 02:38:52,160
other friends do as a profession

3943
02:38:56,070 --> 02:38:55,120
you need to be a little bit crazy it's

3944
02:38:59,190 --> 02:38:56,080
not an easy

3945
02:38:59,670 --> 02:38:59,200
lifestyle and i really think you have to

3946
02:39:03,110 --> 02:38:59,680
be

3947
02:39:04,550 --> 02:39:03,120
able to

3948
02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:04,560
stay sane because there's a lot of guys

3949
02:39:08,309 --> 02:39:06,240
that i've met who have toured done one

3950
02:39:10,870 --> 02:39:08,319
or two tours they're like i'm never

3951
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:10,880
never doing that again and i would kind

3952
02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:12,479
of place those into like

3953
02:39:16,790 --> 02:39:15,200
the normal people realm and then there

3954
02:39:19,190 --> 02:39:16,800
is the

3955
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:19,200
unnormal people realm and i mean i've

3956
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:22,160
i've like i might not have had many

3957
02:39:29,750 --> 02:39:25,439
ufo sightings or bigfoot sightings but

3958
02:39:33,030 --> 02:39:29,760
i am definitely sensitive

3959
02:39:35,830 --> 02:39:33,040
when it comes to things supernatural

3960
02:39:37,349 --> 02:39:35,840
you know i had i referred to it you know

3961
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:37,359
my ex actually used to refer to it as

3962
02:39:41,590 --> 02:39:38,800
the darkness

3963
02:39:43,510 --> 02:39:41,600
and like it's something that's followed

3964
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:43,520
me around since i was a child

3965
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:46,080
i don't know if it's the same thing i

3966
02:39:51,270 --> 02:39:47,680
haven't experienced it at where i'm

3967
02:39:52,710 --> 02:39:51,280
at now but there were points in my life

3968
02:39:55,830 --> 02:39:52,720
where i have seen

3969
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:55,840
things that were unexplainable

3970
02:39:59,590 --> 02:39:58,720
in the supernatural realm and i think

3971
02:40:06,630 --> 02:39:59,600
maybe

3972
02:40:09,110 --> 02:40:06,640
missing in my brain

3973
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:09,120
that because i'm a musician maybe i'm

3974
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:11,520
more sensitive to certain things

3975
02:40:16,150 --> 02:40:14,560
um but i mean

3976
02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:16,160
yeah i think it's just because we're all

3977
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:18,399
a little bit nuts you know we all have

3978
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:20,640
do you talk to your uh bandmates and

3979
02:40:25,190 --> 02:40:23,200
other musicians about this stuff

3980
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:25,200
not unless it's brought up first because

3981
02:40:30,469 --> 02:40:27,520
i i know my crowd

3982
02:40:32,309 --> 02:40:30,479
like i typically won't i like in my my

3983
02:40:35,830 --> 02:40:32,319
public persona

3984
02:40:38,870 --> 02:40:35,840
is that and my private life

3985
02:40:40,790 --> 02:40:38,880
is completely different than the persona

3986
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:40,800
that's out there online because that's

3987
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:42,399
how i want it to be

3988
02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:45,520
um i i wanted my

3989
02:40:51,830 --> 02:40:49,760
public image to be pretty neutral

3990
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:51,840
i don't i don't like you know i don't

3991
02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:53,920
want to not that i'm like afraid of

3992
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:54,880
losing

3993
02:40:58,150 --> 02:40:57,279
followers but i don't want to divide any

3994
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:58,160
of of my

3995
02:41:02,230 --> 02:41:01,439
fans so i tend to keep stuff you know

3996
02:41:04,309 --> 02:41:02,240
like

3997
02:41:05,349 --> 02:41:04,319
politics personal opinions on the

3998
02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:05,359
supernatural

3999
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:07,600
aliens stuff like that like if you know

4000
02:41:10,630 --> 02:41:09,359
me and you're into that we can talk

4001
02:41:13,110 --> 02:41:10,640
about that

4002
02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:13,120
but it's not something i typically bring

4003
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:14,640
up unless

4004
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:17,439
you know it's been brought up well now

4005
02:41:21,910 --> 02:41:19,040
you're out of the closet

4006
02:41:22,309 --> 02:41:21,920
right oh it's fine you're right right

4007
02:41:24,710 --> 02:41:22,319
there

4008
02:41:25,510 --> 02:41:24,720
are going to be people now that are

4009
02:41:27,590 --> 02:41:25,520
going to come up to you

4010
02:41:28,830 --> 02:41:27,600
two dollar jam fade to black i i saw

4011
02:41:31,670 --> 02:41:28,840
this ufo

4012
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:31,680
right and that's fine if that do they

4013
02:41:35,269 --> 02:41:33,120
want to talk about it

4014
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:35,279
but i but when when it comes to certain

4015
02:41:40,070 --> 02:41:37,680
things i try to come

4016
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:40,080
i try to come at it with like all right

4017
02:41:43,670 --> 02:41:41,439
cool where did you see it

4018
02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:43,680
let me see do you have the footage do

4019
02:41:49,349 --> 02:41:46,000
you you know because we all have

4020
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:49,359
we all have high megapixel cameras in

4021
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:50,560
our pockets these days

4022
02:41:54,790 --> 02:41:52,880
right right which is weird because i i'm

4023
02:41:56,630 --> 02:41:54,800
not i don't know if it's me but i feel

4024
02:41:58,070 --> 02:41:56,640
like maybe there's

4025
02:42:00,309 --> 02:41:58,080
minus the stuff that's come out this

4026
02:42:02,469 --> 02:42:00,319
year i feel like there's been less

4027
02:42:06,309 --> 02:42:02,479
ufo sightings since the invention of the

4028
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:08,630
it could be me or maybe it was just more

4029
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:10,720
of a big deal

4030
02:42:13,830 --> 02:42:12,240
maybe i'm not plugged into the right

4031
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:13,840
channels right

4032
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,240
but i feel like seeing a ufo

4033
02:42:22,710 --> 02:42:21,520
or catching something on tape that is

4034
02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:22,720
supernatural

4035
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:26,319
or paranormal i feel like

4036
02:42:30,469 --> 02:42:28,479
minus the reality shows i don't i don't

4037
02:42:32,950 --> 02:42:30,479
really buy into the reality shows like

4038
02:42:35,990 --> 02:42:32,960
the ghost hunters and stuff like that

4039
02:42:39,190 --> 02:42:36,000
um but i feel like there's a lot

4040
02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:39,200
less actual

4041
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:42,479
footage being shot then you know i feel

4042
02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:42,960
like there's

4043
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:45,600
there's more fabricated stuff because

4044
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:47,359
you want the views you want that

4045
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:49,439
you want that youtube monetization you

4046
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:51,840
want to go viral you want those sponsors

4047
02:42:55,269 --> 02:42:53,200
that comes with stuff like that

4048
02:42:57,030 --> 02:42:55,279
right so i think maybe it's just my

4049
02:43:00,070 --> 02:42:57,040
brain like oh that's not real

4050
02:43:02,150 --> 02:43:00,080
and maybe i'm i'm taking things with i'm

4051
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:02,160
taking more things at face value than i

4052
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:03,680
would have before the invention of the

4053
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:05,040
smartphone

4054
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:07,680
but to me there just hasn't really been

4055
02:43:11,670 --> 02:43:08,080
that

4056
02:43:15,349 --> 02:43:11,680
many notable uh

4057
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:15,359
like found footage things

4058
02:43:19,030 --> 02:43:17,200
since the invention of of the of the

4059
02:43:21,110 --> 02:43:19,040
smartphone yeah maybe

4060
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:21,120
maybe they're getting smarter you know

4061
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:22,399
i'm with you on that

4062
02:43:27,830 --> 02:43:25,920
and uh i uh you know ghost adventures

4063
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:27,840
and and ghost hunters and

4064
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:29,760
all of these paranormal they're all over

4065
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:31,359
the place now and

4066
02:43:34,870 --> 02:43:34,000
and i enjoy watching them i always

4067
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:34,880
considered it

4068
02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:37,439
entertainment right okay all right i

4069
02:43:40,950 --> 02:43:38,960
know that there's something going on

4070
02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:40,960
i've seen a couple of things and like

4071
02:43:45,030 --> 02:43:41,920
you said

4072
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:45,040
uh you you had the dark zone uh when you

4073
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:46,319
were growing up

4074
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:50,080
but uh over halloween i i

4075
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:53,600
did this uh tv show uh for the dark zone

4076
02:43:57,590 --> 02:43:56,240
actually uh down in the queen mary in

4077
02:44:00,309 --> 02:43:57,600
long beach

4078
02:44:00,790 --> 02:44:00,319
and so i'm there with all these you know

4079
02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:00,800
uh

4080
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:04,000
you know fabulous professional ghost

4081
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:06,479
hunters with all the equipment and we've

4082
02:44:10,070 --> 02:44:07,359
got the the

4083
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:10,080
cameras and the crew and and everything

4084
02:44:14,550 --> 02:44:11,200
we're going through

4085
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:14,560
and i got to tell you kyle i uh

4086
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:18,319
i was in this room uh and we're doing

4087
02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:19,840
this investigation just like

4088
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:21,520
everything that you've seen on tv you

4089
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:23,200
know this is what's going on

4090
02:44:28,950 --> 02:44:26,319
and there's this moment of silence

4091
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:28,960
and there's uh we had of i think three

4092
02:44:32,710 --> 02:44:30,960
or four camera people off to my right

4093
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:32,720
and a sound guy with a boom and

4094
02:44:35,830 --> 02:44:35,120
and they're over here and we're in this

4095
02:44:38,469 --> 02:44:35,840
suite

4096
02:44:39,910 --> 02:44:38,479
there's about eight or nine people to my

4097
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:39,920
left that are all part of this

4098
02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:41,840
investigation well anyway

4099
02:44:45,349 --> 02:44:43,600
so we're asking questions and we're

4100
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:45,359
recording for evps

4101
02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:48,240
i get everything that you see on tv and

4102
02:44:53,030 --> 02:44:50,640
there's this moment of silence

4103
02:44:54,389 --> 02:44:53,040
and kyle as i live and breathe on

4104
02:44:57,670 --> 02:44:54,399
everything that i love

4105
02:45:00,790 --> 02:44:57,680
and is holy this is what happened

4106
02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:00,800
dead silence and out of

4107
02:45:04,790 --> 02:45:04,080
the air from above me like over this

4108
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:04,800
direction

4109
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:08,960
was a female voice loud and it went

4110
02:45:21,190 --> 02:45:16,630
i'm like what the hell was that

4111
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:21,200
and and and we all heard it

4112
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:24,640
i i don't know right that

4113
02:45:30,389 --> 02:45:28,240
that is i mean the position of where i

4114
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:30,399
i'm watching these tv shows and i'm

4115
02:45:33,110 --> 02:45:32,479
questioning everything man just like you

4116
02:45:36,070 --> 02:45:33,120
are

4117
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:36,080
and then it happens to you yeah well i

4118
02:45:38,550 --> 02:45:37,760
mean like i said it's happened to me

4119
02:45:40,389 --> 02:45:38,560
before

4120
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:40,399
and i don't doubt that they are real and

4121
02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:41,600
especially if you

4122
02:45:44,870 --> 02:45:44,319
i but i also really feel like if you can

4123
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:44,880
if you

4124
02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:48,160
give something power

4125
02:45:51,510 --> 02:45:50,399
the universe can react towards no doubt

4126
02:45:54,389 --> 02:45:51,520
you know what i mean what

4127
02:45:56,230 --> 02:45:54,399
what happened uh give me an example i

4128
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:56,240
will give you the last example and this

4129
02:46:00,710 --> 02:45:57,680
is the last time

4130
02:46:03,349 --> 02:46:00,720
i've ever saw this

4131
02:46:05,429 --> 02:46:03,359
what happened um so i was coming home

4132
02:46:08,830 --> 02:46:05,439
i'm in my early 20s i'm still living

4133
02:46:10,389 --> 02:46:08,840
at home with my mom and my stepdad and

4134
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:10,399
um uh

4135
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:12,560
you know i used to bring female friends

4136
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:13,840
over you know from the bar

4137
02:46:18,150 --> 02:46:16,720
when i'd get home and uh i'd sneak them

4138
02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:18,160
in the back door and they'd be out

4139
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:19,120
before the sun

4140
02:46:24,309 --> 02:46:22,399
didn't know and

4141
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:24,319
i remember and sometimes my dad would be

4142
02:46:27,429 --> 02:46:26,000
falling asleep watching twilight zone on

4143
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:27,439
the couch and sometimes i'd wake him up

4144
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:28,800
he'd never say anything you know

4145
02:46:37,030 --> 02:46:35,510
but uh so i remember one night i'm

4146
02:46:40,150 --> 02:46:37,040
getting home

4147
02:46:42,230 --> 02:46:40,160
um i go straight into my room you know

4148
02:46:45,910 --> 02:46:42,240
put all my things away

4149
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:45,920
and uh i remember i'm going towards the

4150
02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:48,160
the living room

4151
02:46:53,110 --> 02:46:52,240
and um or no i went into the bathroom

4152
02:46:55,910 --> 02:46:53,120
first that's what it was

4153
02:46:56,469 --> 02:46:55,920
sorry so i go to the bathroom i go into

4154
02:46:59,590 --> 02:46:56,479
my room

4155
02:47:00,950 --> 02:46:59,600
i come out and i go talk to my dad he's

4156
02:47:01,830 --> 02:47:00,960
awake on the couch and he goes hey do

4157
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:01,840
you have a friend with you

4158
02:47:06,469 --> 02:47:04,880
and i'm like no he was like

4159
02:47:08,150 --> 02:47:06,479
he's like i know i know you bring chicks

4160
02:47:09,670 --> 02:47:08,160
home dude he's like

4161
02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:09,680
do you gotta check over right now i was

4162
02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:11,760
like nope

4163
02:47:15,110 --> 02:47:14,319
he's like all right because when you

4164
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:15,120
went

4165
02:47:18,469 --> 02:47:17,279
back into your room when you left the

4166
02:47:20,230 --> 02:47:18,479
bathroom

4167
02:47:22,309 --> 02:47:20,240
i saw a brown-haired girl follow you

4168
02:47:25,269 --> 02:47:22,319
into your room

4169
02:47:26,309 --> 02:47:25,279
so i was like no there's nobody here you

4170
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:26,319
can come look

4171
02:47:30,630 --> 02:47:27,680
like you know i wouldn't lie to you

4172
02:47:32,950 --> 02:47:30,640
about this and

4173
02:47:34,630 --> 02:47:32,960
there was two rooms next there was two

4174
02:47:37,349 --> 02:47:34,640
bedrooms down my hallway

4175
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:37,359
there's the back door my room and then

4176
02:47:41,190 --> 02:47:39,040
we called the middle room

4177
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:41,200
i hated the middle room i always hated

4178
02:47:45,349 --> 02:47:42,479
the middle room

4179
02:47:46,150 --> 02:47:45,359
and i remember i would always close that

4180
02:47:47,750 --> 02:47:46,160
door

4181
02:47:50,309 --> 02:47:47,760
if it was open i would just always close

4182
02:47:53,190 --> 02:47:50,319
it and it would always open up

4183
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:53,200
and i remember um it was kind of open a

4184
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:54,560
little bit when i went to go talk to my

4185
02:47:58,790 --> 02:47:55,680
dad

4186
02:48:02,550 --> 02:47:58,800
and when i came back to my room i just i

4187
02:48:05,510 --> 02:48:02,560
felt it and i looked over and

4188
02:48:06,230 --> 02:48:05,520
the the windows the window shades were

4189
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:06,240
open

4190
02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:07,680
and you know there was moonlight and

4191
02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:09,520
stuff like that and i just see

4192
02:48:15,910 --> 02:48:13,680
a silhouette a very feminine silhouette

4193
02:48:17,349 --> 02:48:15,920
and i look over and i just grab the door

4194
02:48:20,469 --> 02:48:17,359
and i close it

4195
02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:20,479
i go back into my room and that was the

4196
02:48:24,469 --> 02:48:21,840
last time i

4197
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:24,479
i saw it i felt it since then but that

4198
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:25,680
was the last time

4199
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:30,720
it let me see it was it what your dad

4200
02:48:35,110 --> 02:48:32,319
described

4201
02:48:36,550 --> 02:48:35,120
it was a feminine figure with long hair

4202
02:48:37,750 --> 02:48:36,560
and because it was dark i could only

4203
02:48:40,469 --> 02:48:37,760
make out the silhouette

4204
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:40,479
it basically just imagine you're looking

4205
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:41,600
at a

4206
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:43,680
like it's not a bright moon but you're

4207
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:44,960
looking into a room

4208
02:48:48,950 --> 02:48:47,439
that has light veering into the window

4209
02:48:51,110 --> 02:48:48,960
right and you can't really

4210
02:48:52,389 --> 02:48:51,120
see the corners of the room you can't

4211
02:48:55,510 --> 02:48:52,399
make out anything

4212
02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:55,520
really in the room but i made out

4213
02:49:01,510 --> 02:48:58,880
a very specific

4214
02:49:02,389 --> 02:49:01,520
silhouette of a female figure in that

4215
02:49:05,670 --> 02:49:02,399
room

4216
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:05,680
now you you you close the door

4217
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:08,560
yeah and you walk away yeah was it

4218
02:49:13,349 --> 02:49:10,240
because you were like well

4219
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:13,359
okay there you go right right i mean

4220
02:49:16,309 --> 02:49:14,800
literally when he

4221
02:49:18,309 --> 02:49:16,319
did you close the door because you were

4222
02:49:20,150 --> 02:49:18,319
scared and then you were freaked out and

4223
02:49:23,670 --> 02:49:20,160
did you think about it all night

4224
02:49:25,830 --> 02:49:23,680
or was it just a ghost uh

4225
02:49:28,309 --> 02:49:25,840
well so when my dad had asked me he's

4226
02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:28,319
like well i saw a girl go into your room

4227
02:49:32,630 --> 02:49:31,279
when you went into the bathroom that's

4228
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:32,640
pretty crazy actually

4229
02:49:37,990 --> 02:49:35,920
but see where he sits he has i

4230
02:49:39,190 --> 02:49:38,000
he has a straight line from where he was

4231
02:49:41,510 --> 02:49:39,200
sitting on the couch

4232
02:49:43,750 --> 02:49:41,520
to my room now you wouldn't be able to

4233
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:43,760
tell if somebody went into my room or

4234
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:45,359
the middle room because the doors are

4235
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:46,960
literally this far apart

4236
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:50,560
sure um

4237
02:49:54,870 --> 02:49:52,800
so when he told me that like the the

4238
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:54,880
hairs the hairs on the back of my neck

4239
02:49:59,750 --> 02:49:57,120
and i was just like oh i really wish you

4240
02:50:02,550 --> 02:49:59,760
didn't tell me that

4241
02:50:04,309 --> 02:50:02,560
and when i looked in the room because i

4242
02:50:08,710 --> 02:50:04,319
would always try not to look in the room

4243
02:50:10,230 --> 02:50:08,720
it was a weird room i didn't like it um

4244
02:50:11,750 --> 02:50:10,240
when it was dark i would never i would

4245
02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:11,760
never look in the room i would just

4246
02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:14,399
grab the door handle close the door and

4247
02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:14,880
when i

4248
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:17,680
looked in the room like you just when

4249
02:50:22,389 --> 02:50:18,000
you

4250
02:50:25,910 --> 02:50:22,399
someone's

4251
02:50:28,870 --> 02:50:25,920
looking at me and it made me

4252
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:28,880
look so when i saw it i was just like

4253
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:29,920
all right

4254
02:50:33,429 --> 02:50:31,920
close the door went in my room and i

4255
02:50:36,389 --> 02:50:33,439
slept with the lights on the rest of the

4256
02:50:38,230 --> 02:50:36,399
night right right what

4257
02:50:39,910 --> 02:50:38,240
that's actually why i started sleeping

4258
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:39,920
with the tv on

4259
02:50:46,230 --> 02:50:43,359
because i felt like because

4260
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:46,240
like how i feel about that is that the

4261
02:50:49,110 --> 02:50:47,120
dead

4262
02:50:51,429 --> 02:50:49,120
because we're we're all made of energy

4263
02:50:52,790 --> 02:50:51,439
like your energy just doesn't disappear

4264
02:50:54,550 --> 02:50:52,800
you know just because you put something

4265
02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:54,560
in the ground or burn it up

4266
02:50:57,990 --> 02:50:56,240
doesn't mean the actual energy inside

4267
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:58,000
your body goes away

4268
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:00,960
and i think that there's people or and

4269
02:51:05,590 --> 02:51:02,560
places

4270
02:51:07,349 --> 02:51:05,600
that have there's like a

4271
02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:07,359
there's like two realms there's like you

4272
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:09,520
know there's the land of the dead and

4273
02:51:13,910 --> 02:51:10,800
there's the land of the living

4274
02:51:14,630 --> 02:51:13,920
and i think people and places can kind

4275
02:51:17,269 --> 02:51:14,640
of make those

4276
02:51:17,830 --> 02:51:17,279
crash a little bit into each other to

4277
02:51:21,269 --> 02:51:17,840
where

4278
02:51:23,190 --> 02:51:21,279
they can see us maybe we can see them

4279
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:23,200
but we're not completely joined we're

4280
02:51:27,670 --> 02:51:25,279
just like right at the tip

4281
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:27,680
just touching do you think she lived in

4282
02:51:33,349 --> 02:51:29,680
that room

4283
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:33,359
i don't know um the house is really old

4284
02:51:39,830 --> 02:51:36,800
my mom still lives there right um

4285
02:51:41,030 --> 02:51:39,840
my mom has had the house saged multiple

4286
02:51:44,550 --> 02:51:41,040
times

4287
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:44,560
um but that house

4288
02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:46,960
is hundred and twenty years old in

4289
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:48,479
burbank

4290
02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:51,439
uh yeah just outside of it's well it's

4291
02:51:53,429 --> 02:51:52,880
technically just out i don't like to let

4292
02:51:55,349 --> 02:51:53,439
people know

4293
02:51:56,710 --> 02:51:55,359
where my mom lives right but it's just

4294
02:52:01,510 --> 02:51:56,720
outside of burbank

4295
02:52:05,110 --> 02:52:01,520
in the northeast valley gotcha um gotcha

4296
02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:05,120
and the town that we grew up in

4297
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:06,880
was you know had been around for a long

4298
02:52:09,670 --> 02:52:08,399
time you know this house was made in

4299
02:52:12,830 --> 02:52:09,680
1900

4300
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:12,840
right you know what i mean right right

4301
02:52:17,429 --> 02:52:14,800
so

4302
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:17,439
but the add-on to the house wasn't made

4303
02:52:21,269 --> 02:52:18,479
until the

4304
02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:21,279
60s or 70s which is where my room is

4305
02:52:25,670 --> 02:52:23,680
where to where the two back rooms were

4306
02:52:28,309 --> 02:52:25,680
so it was i don't know if it was

4307
02:52:31,670 --> 02:52:28,319
something that had to do with that house

4308
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:31,680
specifically or if it because or if it

4309
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:32,560
was because

4310
02:52:40,550 --> 02:52:36,960
i'm sensitive to certain things um

4311
02:52:43,190 --> 02:52:40,560
now okay okay you you brought up

4312
02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:43,200
uh kyle showed me his cell phone he's

4313
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:44,399
got a

4314
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:47,200
uh iphone 11 or 12 right it's got the

4315
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:49,120
three cameras on it right and he showed

4316
02:52:54,630 --> 02:52:50,399
this to me

4317
02:52:55,990 --> 02:52:54,640
and here you have that experience

4318
02:52:57,670 --> 02:52:56,000
and you were just talking about

4319
02:53:00,469 --> 02:52:57,680
everybody's got a cell phone

4320
02:53:01,030 --> 02:53:00,479
but where's the footage yeah you didn't

4321
02:53:02,870 --> 02:53:01,040
take

4322
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:02,880
any pictures i had a flip i had a flip

4323
02:53:07,910 --> 02:53:05,680
phone oh no camera

4324
02:53:08,950 --> 02:53:07,920
but you know what i mean in the in the

4325
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:08,960
moment

4326
02:53:12,710 --> 02:53:11,279
and sometimes you don't yeah it happens

4327
02:53:16,070 --> 02:53:12,720
so fast

4328
02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:16,080
was this something that that if you had

4329
02:53:19,429 --> 02:53:17,439
the equipment do you think you could

4330
02:53:22,150 --> 02:53:19,439
have photographed it

4331
02:53:23,990 --> 02:53:22,160
if i had a c because the one thing that

4332
02:53:24,550 --> 02:53:24,000
i feel like is the hardest to get to in

4333
02:53:27,269 --> 02:53:24,560
a hurry

4334
02:53:28,630 --> 02:53:27,279
is your camera on your cell phone right

4335
02:53:31,510 --> 02:53:28,640
especially if you're trying to film a

4336
02:53:33,750 --> 02:53:31,520
video you're gonna hit everything else

4337
02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:33,760
before you get to the proper way to do

4338
02:53:37,349 --> 02:53:34,880
it if

4339
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:37,359
whatever it was you know it also could

4340
02:53:42,070 --> 02:53:39,600
have been easily my imagination

4341
02:53:43,269 --> 02:53:42,080
my dad had put like oh there's a girl so

4342
02:53:45,670 --> 02:53:43,279
i could have easily

4343
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:45,680
out of shadows made a figure of a girl

4344
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:46,640
in my head

4345
02:53:50,950 --> 02:53:48,800
to scare myself which is totally

4346
02:53:51,349 --> 02:53:50,960
plausible but if whatever i was looking

4347
02:53:53,110 --> 02:53:51,359
at

4348
02:53:54,790 --> 02:53:53,120
gave me the right amount of time i would

4349
02:53:56,870 --> 02:53:54,800
try

4350
02:53:58,469 --> 02:53:56,880
i mean i'd be scared i'd probably pee my

4351
02:54:01,590 --> 02:53:58,479
pants scared

4352
02:54:04,469 --> 02:54:01,600
but i would definitely attempt to

4353
02:54:05,349 --> 02:54:04,479
to capture it but who knows you know

4354
02:54:06,630 --> 02:54:05,359
maybe there's

4355
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,640
because i know that there are certain

4356
02:54:11,429 --> 02:54:08,399
things that the human eye

4357
02:54:13,110 --> 02:54:11,439
can only see in person like any time you

4358
02:54:13,429 --> 02:54:13,120
see a picture of like someone oh look

4359
02:54:14,870 --> 02:54:13,439
how

4360
02:54:18,309 --> 02:54:14,880
beautiful the moon is and they took it

4361
02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:18,319
on their iphone it looks like garbage

4362
02:54:24,389 --> 02:54:21,600
so there's things that only our eyeballs

4363
02:54:26,070 --> 02:54:24,399
can process like you can't process

4364
02:54:27,910 --> 02:54:26,080
through a camera it doesn't matter how

4365
02:54:31,269 --> 02:54:27,920
good the camera is i agree

4366
02:54:34,070 --> 02:54:31,279
the in-person view of something will

4367
02:54:35,190 --> 02:54:34,080
always be better than a photographed

4368
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:35,200
image of it

4369
02:54:39,590 --> 02:54:37,920
which is why people who can make

4370
02:54:42,790 --> 02:54:39,600
photographs

4371
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:42,800
look so amazing are amazing

4372
02:54:49,269 --> 02:54:46,160
you know amazing people um

4373
02:54:51,190 --> 02:54:49,279
but i don't think that i would have been

4374
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:51,200
able to capture what i saw if

4375
02:54:57,190 --> 02:54:54,880
if it was what i thought it was

4376
02:54:58,710 --> 02:54:57,200
if it wasn't a figment of my imagination

4377
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,720
a shape i made out of the shadows

4378
02:55:03,510 --> 02:55:00,560
because there was no noise

4379
02:55:05,110 --> 02:55:03,520
and my heart was racing i was a you know

4380
02:55:07,110 --> 02:55:05,120
adrenaline pumping

4381
02:55:09,110 --> 02:55:07,120
there there could be multiple things

4382
02:55:10,070 --> 02:55:09,120
that i'm miss remembering about that

4383
02:55:13,030 --> 02:55:10,080
situation

4384
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:13,040
i didn't hear any breathing there was no

4385
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:14,560
groans there was no

4386
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:17,760
nothing it was dead silent

4387
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:20,479
i'll tell you a funny story it happened

4388
02:55:25,510 --> 02:55:21,680
uh

4389
02:55:28,830 --> 02:55:25,520
last thursday

4390
02:55:32,469 --> 02:55:28,840
uh right over by your house

4391
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:32,479
on uh uh what was the

4392
02:55:40,070 --> 02:55:36,160
the corner sherman way

4393
02:55:43,429 --> 02:55:40,080
and uh vineland

4394
02:55:46,309 --> 02:55:43,439
oh yeah like right there okay and

4395
02:55:47,269 --> 02:55:46,319
uh no we turned left on vineland and we

4396
02:55:50,389 --> 02:55:47,279
were heading

4397
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:50,399
up towards san fernando road okay okay

4398
02:55:54,550 --> 02:55:53,200
right by the five freeway and you

4399
02:55:57,670 --> 02:55:54,560
probably saw this

4400
02:56:01,349 --> 02:55:57,680
uh a fire hydrant got hit

4401
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:01,359
by a car and the geyser was shooting up

4402
02:56:04,870 --> 02:56:03,439
on the corner of san fernando road

4403
02:56:07,269 --> 02:56:04,880
there's like a chevron

4404
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:07,279
there next to the mcdonald's i know you

4405
02:56:11,110 --> 02:56:09,040
know exactly what i'm talking about

4406
02:56:12,870 --> 02:56:11,120
yeah um and so this thing is shooting

4407
02:56:16,710 --> 02:56:12,880
100 feet in the air

4408
02:56:17,910 --> 02:56:16,720
and i am fumbling with my cell phone to

4409
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:17,920
shoot a video

4410
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,600
it's right in front of me this isn't a

4411
02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:22,000
fleeting moment of a ufo or a ghost

4412
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:24,800
you're also you're also you're also at a

4413
02:56:28,150 --> 02:56:26,560
red light

4414
02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:28,160
right you're driving you're at a red

4415
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:30,399
light i i can't get

4416
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:32,880
video to happen on my phone right yeah

4417
02:56:37,510 --> 02:56:35,520
and i've got all the time in the world

4418
02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:37,520
in the middle of daytime but the one

4419
02:56:40,710 --> 02:56:38,720
thing you're not trying to be

4420
02:56:42,870 --> 02:56:40,720
is that guy sitting at the green light

4421
02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:42,880
like filming something that's going on

4422
02:56:45,429 --> 02:56:43,680
you know

4423
02:56:46,870 --> 02:56:45,439
and i did everything i could and i still

4424
02:56:50,150 --> 02:56:46,880
almost blew it

4425
02:56:51,670 --> 02:56:50,160
like three times and and and i had five

4426
02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:51,680
minutes uh to do it

4427
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:53,600
kyle what a great conversation tonight

4428
02:56:57,269 --> 02:56:54,720
man and uh

4429
02:56:57,830 --> 02:56:57,279
when's i know you're working on the new

4430
02:57:01,269 --> 02:56:57,840
album

4431
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:01,279
when can we expect it um i'm not exactly

4432
02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:02,240
sure yet

4433
02:57:05,990 --> 02:57:04,080
uh they they were talking about maybe

4434
02:57:08,150 --> 02:57:06,000
first quarter next year but

4435
02:57:09,910 --> 02:57:08,160
we might coincide you know if we're

4436
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,920
still able to do these disturbed

4437
02:57:13,190 --> 02:57:11,359
stain dates in the summer we might

4438
02:57:14,870 --> 02:57:13,200
coincide with that um

4439
02:57:17,670 --> 02:57:14,880
i'm not really sure but sometime next

4440
02:57:20,070 --> 02:57:17,680
year how many tracks are done

4441
02:57:21,830 --> 02:57:20,080
um well i mean we have a lot of tracks

4442
02:57:23,190 --> 02:57:21,840
done but we haven't even picked what's

4443
02:57:24,070 --> 02:57:23,200
going to be on the record yet so we're

4444
02:57:27,590 --> 02:57:24,080
going to be going through

4445
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:27,600
probably 20 songs really quick um

4446
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:30,479
i'm i'm uh i'm i'm a musician are you

4447
02:57:35,110 --> 02:57:31,200
guys

4448
02:57:36,950 --> 02:57:35,120
uh doing this in a studio

4449
02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:36,960
well we we're actually kind of doing it

4450
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:38,399
for the most part the way that we've

4451
02:57:43,269 --> 02:57:39,680
always done it

4452
02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:43,279
is over the computer just sending ideas

4453
02:57:47,110 --> 02:57:45,279
right you know right john works with a

4454
02:57:50,870 --> 02:57:47,120
guy his name is max

4455
02:57:52,870 --> 02:57:50,880
who helps bring john's ideas to life

4456
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:52,880
and then those get sent to a producer

4457
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:54,000
and then tommy will

4458
02:57:58,309 --> 02:57:56,960
listen to those fix some arrangements or

4459
02:58:00,230 --> 02:57:58,319
what have you

4460
02:58:02,150 --> 02:58:00,240
and i mean we kind of just all have

4461
02:58:03,030 --> 02:58:02,160
worked remotely regardless anyway we're

4462
02:58:05,110 --> 02:58:03,040
not like

4463
02:58:06,469 --> 02:58:05,120
we haven't been a band that's just like

4464
02:58:07,670 --> 02:58:06,479
gotten to a rehearsal place all right

4465
02:58:09,269 --> 02:58:07,680
let's write songs

4466
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:09,279
and then we've never gone into a studio

4467
02:58:13,269 --> 02:58:10,960
okay let's write this record

4468
02:58:14,309 --> 02:58:13,279
it's like you know john did all the

4469
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:14,319
drums

4470
02:58:18,150 --> 02:58:16,240
for the last two records in nashville

4471
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:18,160
with mark lewis

4472
02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:21,680
with two completed tracks you know

4473
02:58:26,309 --> 02:58:24,160
we don't really have like that's kind of

4474
02:58:28,630 --> 02:58:26,319
our way of of making records

4475
02:58:30,309 --> 02:58:28,640
which is a lot different than how most

4476
02:58:32,630 --> 02:58:30,319
people make records

4477
02:58:34,070 --> 02:58:32,640
um it's more on par with like how much

4478
02:58:36,150 --> 02:58:34,080
sugar does stuff or

4479
02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:36,160
um but it's like and we don't really

4480
02:58:39,910 --> 02:58:37,279
have a set order

4481
02:58:40,550 --> 02:58:39,920
like if if the song is good then we go

4482
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:40,560
with it

4483
02:58:43,910 --> 02:58:42,160
and then if like all right cool we need

4484
02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:43,920
to we might need to redo the guitars for

4485
02:58:46,469 --> 02:58:44,399
this

4486
02:58:48,150 --> 02:58:46,479
or reamp them through something else and

4487
02:58:49,110 --> 02:58:48,160
then you know i'll come and play bass on

4488
02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:49,120
everything when it's all

4489
02:58:53,830 --> 02:58:52,240
done like i'll do my vocals my

4490
02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:53,840
background vocals for the record before

4491
02:58:58,550 --> 02:58:55,520
i even play bass on it

4492
02:59:00,790 --> 02:58:58,560
interesting yeah and see that's that's

4493
02:59:02,469 --> 02:59:00,800
the beauty of technology today

4494
02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:02,479
where you can do that where you can

4495
02:59:06,230 --> 02:59:03,840
digitally distribute

4496
02:59:07,349 --> 02:59:06,240
tracks at any level of the production

4497
02:59:09,670 --> 02:59:07,359
process

4498
02:59:11,990 --> 02:59:09,680
right and do your contribution and then

4499
02:59:13,750 --> 02:59:12,000
come back and it goes to somebody else

4500
02:59:16,469 --> 02:59:13,760
and and they do their thing and

4501
02:59:19,030 --> 02:59:16,479
eventually it winds its way back to you

4502
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:19,040
and and you do your thing again and can

4503
02:59:22,389 --> 02:59:20,240
you imagine

4504
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:22,399
if we had the ability to do that in the

4505
02:59:27,670 --> 02:59:24,800
80s with two-inch tape

4506
02:59:29,990 --> 02:59:27,680
right oh yeah instead of forcing

4507
02:59:32,790 --> 02:59:30,000
everybody to get in the same mindset

4508
02:59:34,230 --> 02:59:32,800
at the same time in the same studio to

4509
02:59:36,469 --> 02:59:34,240
get the magic to happen

4510
02:59:37,750 --> 02:59:36,479
which is cool right yeah but it's

4511
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:37,760
another thing where you can get

4512
02:59:41,510 --> 02:59:38,399
everybody

4513
02:59:42,630 --> 02:59:41,520
in their own zone and contribute at the

4514
02:59:45,269 --> 02:59:42,640
right time

4515
02:59:46,070 --> 02:59:45,279
yeah fantastic conversation and uh i

4516
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:46,080
look forward

4517
02:59:52,950 --> 02:59:49,760
uh to uh inviting myself on on uh just

4518
02:59:54,469 --> 02:59:52,960
sdfu uh anytime man uh

4519
02:59:56,230 --> 02:59:54,479
i would really enjoy it thank you so

4520
02:59:56,950 --> 02:59:56,240
much yeah thanks for having me man it's

4521
02:59:59,830 --> 02:59:56,960
been a blast

4522
03:00:00,230 --> 02:59:59,840
kyle conkel and we just went polled the

4523
03:00:03,110 --> 03:00:00,240
poll

4524
03:00:04,950 --> 03:00:03,120
i'm looking at the clock and the

4525
03:00:07,590 --> 03:00:04,960
network's about to cut us off

4526
03:00:08,150 --> 03:00:07,600
so i'm going to put kyle on hold while

4527
03:00:11,429 --> 03:00:08,160
i'll

4528
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:11,439
yeah why hi read the credits i've got to

4529
03:00:14,070 --> 03:00:13,200
get out of here faded black's executive

4530
03:00:16,550 --> 03:00:14,080
producer

4531
03:00:17,110 --> 03:00:16,560
is rita comerian shows produced by

4532
03:00:19,830 --> 03:00:17,120
hilton j

4533
03:00:21,750 --> 03:00:19,840
palm renee dennis and kevin announcers

4534
03:00:24,230 --> 03:00:21,760
are steve harter gene vettel mark t

4535
03:00:28,110 --> 03:00:24,240
kovar webmaster is drew the geek

4536
03:00:29,510 --> 03:00:28,120
music doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4537
03:00:31,670 --> 03:00:29,520
spaceboymusic.com

4538
03:00:33,630 --> 03:00:31,680
beta black is produced by kjcr for the

4539
03:00:35,269 --> 03:00:33,640
game changer network and syndication is

4540
03:00:37,110 --> 03:00:35,279
kgra

4541
03:00:39,429 --> 03:00:37,120
the planet this broadcast owned a

4542
03:00:41,269 --> 03:00:39,439
copyrighted 2020 by fade to black and

4543
03:00:43,190 --> 03:00:41,279
the game changer network inc

4544
03:00:44,870 --> 03:00:43,200
it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4545
03:00:45,590 --> 03:00:44,880
copied or used anywhere in the known

4546
03:00:47,190 --> 03:00:45,600
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4547
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:47,200
without written permission from paid to

4548
03:00:50,469 --> 03:00:48,720
black or the game changer network

4549
03:00:52,230 --> 03:00:50,479
i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

4550
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:52,240
night is fader night

4551
03:00:58,230 --> 03:00:55,359
open lines all night long until then

4552
03:01:07,610 --> 03:00:58,240
i want everybody to be safe this is fade

4553
03:01:32,830 --> 03:01:07,620
to black

4554
03:01:34,000 --> 03:01:32,840
[Music]

4555
03:01:49,429 --> 03:01:34,010
so